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This annoys the hell out of me and I only speak English. Microsoft is probably the biggest development-focused company in the world, but their own work communi

This annoys the hell out of me and I only speak English. Microsoft is probably the biggest development-focused company in the world, but their own work communications app, Teams, doesn't allow you to paste small pieces of code in a chat because it replaces punctuation with emoji. Regardless, if I want an emoji, I will type the emoji. If I typed ':)' I want ':)' not some stupid yellow face. Meta's Facebook Messenger doesn't allow those forbidden strings either. Meta's WhatsApp mobile does, but WhatsApp web does not. My phone has an emoji picker if I want an emoji. I don't want what I type or paste replaced with an emoji. Anywhere. Ever. This practice should stop.

kaladin-jasnah 4y ago
My way of getting around the emoji conversions from ':)' to a smiley face is typing it in reverse: '(:' or '):'.
- homonculus1 4y ago
  But I'm not left-handed!
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- DonHopkins 4y ago
  Plus then you can stick out your tongue like this: c(: c):
- layer8 4y ago
  I don’t remember which software, but I’ve seen those being converted as well.
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> their own work communications app, Teams, doesn't allow you to paste small pieces of code in a chat because it replaces punctuation with emoji. Don't you just put it in backticks `like this`? Even for really short things, it seems clearer and it avoids the machine "helpfully" changing things. (Your general point is correct, of course, just suggesting a solution to this very particular nuisance)
- cryptonector 4y ago
  In Skype you have to write {code}...{code}. Or prefix your entire message with @@ (but it used to be you could prefix !! -- why oh why did they change it?!). I so so wish we could standardize on GitHub markdown for all these things!
mynameisvlad 4y ago
IIRC, Teams supports Markdown-style code, either `single line` or ``` multi line ```
- usrusr 4y ago
  Truly a joy on German keyboards where ` is a dead key that makes the system wait for an e, or an a to receive that accent and certain OS don't come with a nodeadkeys alternative keyboard map. I often find myself with the ` in the copy/paste buffer when worrying code-heavy markdown because pasting is so much easier...
  - kps 4y ago
    Can't you just type [deadkey]+Space to get the ‘undead’ version? That works on Linux and MacOS and ChromeOS.
    - keybored 4y ago
      Probably, but having to type six keys just to open a code block is probably painful.
      - usrusr 4y ago
        Six keys, with a distracting lack of visual feedback on half of them...
    - usrusr 4y ago
      Sure, but it's super annoying when you write something in markdown knowing that being lazy with the proportional/monospace mix will noticeably harm understandability. Particularly when you suspect that readers will be close to failing to understand, doubly so when you suspect that this reader might be a future self. Is it worth the time writing? Only if I get the monospace right. Dead keys can make that writing situation a weirdly subtle kind of hell. So annoying in fact that I've just spent the last two hours with Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator (yeah, I'm still a Windows person) shifting the dead key version to hide behind alt-gr. Then I used it to mitigate some oddities on the dynabook keyboard (pipe and smaller/greater than weirdly moved to where the windows connect menu button usually resides) and continued duplicating some of the usual alt-gr suspects at locations inspired by their US KB position. Right now I'm an inappropriately happy person, let's see how I'll think about it in the future (getting too used to something non-standard cab be a terrible cost).
layer8 4y ago
Totally agree. In some software, a strategically placed backslash helps.
keybored 4y ago
> Regardless, if I want an emoji, I will type the emoji. If I typed ':)' I want ':)' not some stupid yellow face. But are you sure that you didn’t really want `:slightly_smiling_face:`? (Auto-complete to passive-aggressiveness)
jheriko 4y ago
use the code blocks? even messenger supports the backticks and triple backticks now

kaladin-jasnah 4y ago

My way of getting around the emoji conversions from ':)' to a smiley face is typing it in reverse: '(:' or '):'.

homonculus1 4y ago
But I'm not left-handed!
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  [deleted]
DonHopkins 4y ago
Plus then you can stick out your tongue like this: c(: c):
layer8 4y ago
I don’t remember which software, but I’ve seen those being converted as well.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

> their own work communications app, Teams, doesn't allow you to paste small pieces of code in a chat because it replaces punctuation with emoji. Don't you just put it in backticks `like this`? Even for really short things, it seems clearer and it avoids the machine "helpfully" changing things. (Your general point is correct, of course, just suggesting a solution to this very particular nuisance)

cryptonector 4y ago
In Skype you have to write {code}...{code}. Or prefix your entire message with @@ (but it used to be you could prefix !! -- why oh why did they change it?!). I so so wish we could standardize on GitHub markdown for all these things!

mynameisvlad 4y ago

IIRC, Teams supports Markdown-style code, either `single line` or ``` multi line ```

usrusr 4y ago
Truly a joy on German keyboards where ` is a dead key that makes the system wait for an e, or an a to receive that accent and certain OS don't come with a nodeadkeys alternative keyboard map. I often find myself with the ` in the copy/paste buffer when worrying code-heavy markdown because pasting is so much easier...
- kps 4y ago
  Can't you just type [deadkey]+Space to get the ‘undead’ version? That works on Linux and MacOS and ChromeOS.
  - keybored 4y ago
    Probably, but having to type six keys just to open a code block is probably painful.
    - usrusr 4y ago
      Six keys, with a distracting lack of visual feedback on half of them...
  - usrusr 4y ago
    Sure, but it's super annoying when you write something in markdown knowing that being lazy with the proportional/monospace mix will noticeably harm understandability. Particularly when you suspect that readers will be close to failing to understand, doubly so when you suspect that this reader might be a future self. Is it worth the time writing? Only if I get the monospace right. Dead keys can make that writing situation a weirdly subtle kind of hell. So annoying in fact that I've just spent the last two hours with Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator (yeah, I'm still a Windows person) shifting the dead key version to hide behind alt-gr. Then I used it to mitigate some oddities on the dynabook keyboard (pipe and smaller/greater than weirdly moved to where the windows connect menu button usually resides) and continued duplicating some of the usual alt-gr suspects at locations inspired by their US KB position. Right now I'm an inappropriately happy person, let's see how I'll think about it in the future (getting too used to something non-standard cab be a terrible cost).

layer8 4y ago

Totally agree. In some software, a strategically placed backslash helps.

keybored 4y ago

> Regardless, if I want an emoji, I will type the emoji. If I typed ':)' I want ':)' not some stupid yellow face. But are you sure that you didn’t really want `:slightly_smiling_face:`? (Auto-complete to passive-aggressiveness)

jheriko 4y ago

use the code blocks? even messenger supports the backticks and triple backticks now