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Amazing what sort of atrocities people will commit when fear and emergencies are invoked.

asdff 4y ago
You don't have to invoke all of that to commit atrocities, just appeals to convenience work well enough to convince someone to forsake the rights of another person. Settlement of this country should have never happened, this is all stolen indigenous land whose conquest was legally justified by the handwaving of a patriarch of a religion hundreds of years ago. White settlers at the time saw native peoples as a pest much like a coyote is a pest to livestock, and much like coyotes they were allowed to kill off these people pretty matter of factly without recourse. There was no fear or emergency justifying that action, only that the white person would like to make profit grazing their cattle in the buffalo country on land that was offered to them by their government for next to nothing.
- rgrieselhuber 4y ago
  That’s true. We did see that in recent years with people even such as Noam Chomsky arguing for ostracizing undesirables and withholding food from them.
  - andrekandre 4y ago
    > even such as Noam Chomsky arguing for ostracizing undesirables and withholding food from them. wow, when was this?!
    - coldacid 4y ago
      https://nationalpost.com/news/world/noam-chomsky-says-the-unvaccinated-should-just-remove-themselves-from-society https://nationalpost.com/news/world/noam-chomsky-says-the-un...
      - andrekandre 4y ago
        > Speaking on YouTube’s Primo Radical on Oct. 24, Chomsky said that for the unvaccinated people who are segregated from society, how they obtain groceries should be left up to them. “How can we get food to them?” asked Chomsky. “Well, that’s actually their problem.” hmm... while a bit harsh, im not sure that files under "withholding food" from the unvaccinated...
        rgrieselhuber 4y ago
        I think that’s exactly what he was saying.
        asdff 4y ago
        He's really saying that these people made their bed and are forced to sleep in it, and they can't expect society to go out of its way to accommodate their disregard for society in general.
        rgrieselhuber 4y ago
        No, he said they should be ostracized and removed from society and food is then their own problem. The force of violent coercion is implied and quite obvious.

You don't have to invoke all of that to commit atrocities, just appeals to convenience work well enough to convince someone to forsake the rights of another person. Settlement of this country should have never happened, this is all stolen indigenous land whose conquest was legally justified by the handwaving of a patriarch of a religion hundreds of years ago. White settlers at the time saw native peoples as a pest much like a coyote is a pest to livestock, and much like coyotes they were allowed to kill off these people pretty matter of factly without recourse. There was no fear or emergency justifying that action, only that the white person would like to make profit grazing their cattle in the buffalo country on land that was offered to them by their government for next to nothing.

rgrieselhuber 4y ago
That’s true. We did see that in recent years with people even such as Noam Chomsky arguing for ostracizing undesirables and withholding food from them.
- andrekandre 4y ago
  > even such as Noam Chomsky arguing for ostracizing undesirables and withholding food from them. wow, when was this?!
  - coldacid 4y ago
    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/noam-chomsky-says-the-unvaccinated-should-just-remove-themselves-from-society https://nationalpost.com/news/world/noam-chomsky-says-the-un...
    - andrekandre 4y ago
      > Speaking on YouTube’s Primo Radical on Oct. 24, Chomsky said that for the unvaccinated people who are segregated from society, how they obtain groceries should be left up to them. “How can we get food to them?” asked Chomsky. “Well, that’s actually their problem.” hmm... while a bit harsh, im not sure that files under "withholding food" from the unvaccinated...
      - rgrieselhuber 4y ago
        I think that’s exactly what he was saying.
        asdff 4y ago
        He's really saying that these people made their bed and are forced to sleep in it, and they can't expect society to go out of its way to accommodate their disregard for society in general.
        rgrieselhuber 4y ago
        No, he said they should be ostracized and removed from society and food is then their own problem. The force of violent coercion is implied and quite obvious.