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Yeah, I think seats are the least of my concerns when buying an EV. I don't want $5000 added to the price tag for fancy seats. Just give me more battery and po

Yeah, I think seats are the least of my concerns when buying an EV. I don't want $5000 added to the price tag for fancy seats. Just give me more battery and power. I mean sure, if you make 500+ mile trips frequently, by all means, get yourself a custom car seat, but I just want a frictionless experience of getting from A to B (cheaply)

dkyc 4y ago
If you don’t make 500+ mile trips frequently, why is the size of the battery so important (honest question)?
- zaroth 4y ago
  If someone is questioning battery and power as their key issues for an EV, it’s likely they don’t own one and don’t actually get it. The biggest issue with EV adoption will be access to home charging. If you can charge at home, battery and power is more than already solved. And if you can’t charge at home, no amount of battery can really solve that problem.
- frumper 4y ago
  I'd also think that someone making 500+ mile trips would be very interested in the seats.
- antisthenes 4y ago
  Because the battery is what should be driving the value of the EV for me, the customer. When the battery starts losing capacity, a larger battery will still have more miles, for longer, than a smaller one. The length of the trip has nothing to do with it, btw, only the total amount of miles driven in the expected lifetime of the vehicle. The second biggest cost factor in an EV is the electric drivetrain. As a customer, I want the manufacturer to spend the most amount of money on the parts of the car that get me from point A to point B (which are battery and drivetrain), not something frivolous like a $5000 car seat, when a $500 one is 99% as good.
lazide 4y ago
If you use the car for 100k miles, you’ll spend anywhere from 70 to 270 straight 24 hr days sitting in that seat, depending on your mix of average speeds. (60 to 15 mph for these examples) I can’t imagine a more sure fire way to hate past you than having bad and/or unergonomic seats. But hey, we all have different priorities.
ryzvonusef 4y ago
You are talking about the wrong segment of cars, neither Rivian nor its competitor the Ford F150L are trying to capture your segment, if I understand it correctly. but the issue is about the manufacturing process for the seats. Rivian would have five different plastic pieces, for say, the underside of the seat, all requiring individual painting, whereas Ford has learnt that that piece could be one single textured molded piece, ready to go, so that is process engineering, and neither effect the luxuriousness of the seat, but there are still cost savings to be had.
addisonl 4y ago
If I am spending $75k on a vehicle it better have fancy seats. What you are describing is a budget EV, in that case then yes, don't add fancy seats. But in this price range luxury is expected.

dkyc 4y ago

If you don’t make 500+ mile trips frequently, why is the size of the battery so important (honest question)?

zaroth 4y ago
If someone is questioning battery and power as their key issues for an EV, it’s likely they don’t own one and don’t actually get it. The biggest issue with EV adoption will be access to home charging. If you can charge at home, battery and power is more than already solved. And if you can’t charge at home, no amount of battery can really solve that problem.
frumper 4y ago
I'd also think that someone making 500+ mile trips would be very interested in the seats.
antisthenes 4y ago
Because the battery is what should be driving the value of the EV for me, the customer. When the battery starts losing capacity, a larger battery will still have more miles, for longer, than a smaller one. The length of the trip has nothing to do with it, btw, only the total amount of miles driven in the expected lifetime of the vehicle. The second biggest cost factor in an EV is the electric drivetrain. As a customer, I want the manufacturer to spend the most amount of money on the parts of the car that get me from point A to point B (which are battery and drivetrain), not something frivolous like a $5000 car seat, when a $500 one is 99% as good.

lazide 4y ago

If you use the car for 100k miles, you’ll spend anywhere from 70 to 270 straight 24 hr days sitting in that seat, depending on your mix of average speeds. (60 to 15 mph for these examples) I can’t imagine a more sure fire way to hate past you than having bad and/or unergonomic seats. But hey, we all have different priorities.

ryzvonusef 4y ago

You are talking about the wrong segment of cars, neither Rivian nor its competitor the Ford F150L are trying to capture your segment, if I understand it correctly. but the issue is about the manufacturing process for the seats. Rivian would have five different plastic pieces, for say, the underside of the seat, all requiring individual painting, whereas Ford has learnt that that piece could be one single textured molded piece, ready to go, so that is process engineering, and neither effect the luxuriousness of the seat, but there are still cost savings to be had.

addisonl 4y ago

If I am spending $75k on a vehicle it better have fancy seats. What you are describing is a budget EV, in that case then yes, don't add fancy seats. But in this price range luxury is expected.