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Is it stable? I really want to ditch appsmith, tried ToolJet but didn't hook me. Yours look promising, i hope you continue the development of it.

raviparikh 4y ago
What about Appsmith/Tooljet fell short for you?
- Multrex 4y ago
  Appsmith you can't create good looking apps and the responsiveness is not good. Tooljet is good but it didn't click me. Basically I'm not developer but i know good SQL and WordPress. I really want something like Elementor page builder but with low code functionalities.
shuaihan 4y ago
Thanks for your appreciation. It's stable. We write a lot of tests to make sure everything works.
foxbee 4y ago
Have you tried Budibase? For reference, I am the cofounder of Budibase and we're planning 2023 so I am super-eager for feedback. https://github.com/Budibase/budibase https://github.com/Budibase/budibase
- kwerk 4y ago
  Fwiw BigQuery support is what kept me from testing budibase and using retool for a project just 2 weeks ago.
  - foxbee 4y ago
    Ahhh. We have a plugin repo now and there's a plugin for BigQuery: https://github.com/marblekirby/budibase-big-query-plugin https://github.com/marblekirby/budibase-big-query-plugin
    - kwerk 4y ago
      Whoa great! I’ll give it a go
    - kwerk 4y ago
      I missed it because there’s an open issue for it: https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/4403 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/4403
- Multrex 4y ago
  Budibase is my next option until they implement full drag and drop functionality. Also one thing that stopped me from using budibase now is: "pagination not working on tables which use queries or relationship data". Other tools can handle something similar. https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/6226 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/6226 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/3974 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/3974
  - foxbee 4y ago
    Fwiw Budibase has drag and drop now (released a couple of weeks ago)
- sagaro 4y ago
  I have been using budibase for pretty much all my internal tooling at an Ecom startup. it is pretty good for pretty much most usecases.
- barnabee 4y ago
  Some feedback, as you asked for it and I signed up for both OpenBlocks and Budibase cloud versions today to try them out: (NB: If I like either or both of them I’ll self host, as I have no interest in SaaS, indeed it’s what’s stopped me from using things like Retool despite missing RAD tools ever since Delphi stopped being a viable solution for me.) OpenBlocks dropped me quickly into its pretty snappy app (literally just connected Github and done) and I was away and designing a simple screen in no time. Budibase on the other hand asked me a bunch of questions about my “company” and job, then dumped me straight into a wizard to create or connect to a database. It felt like ages before I could start clicking and playing around. I nearly gave up and left at least twice and in fact ended up only trying the actual tools in Budibase out for a much shorter time as a result. Maybe I’ll go back to it later, but I’m already planning to deploy an OpenBlocks instance to mess around with more. I massively prefer the OpenBlocks approach here. I want to be dropped quickly into a powerful and intuitive tool, not taken through a signup and data harvesting flow nor invited to create an app through a series of wizards. From what I see Budibase looks promising and it seems to have some features that OpenBlocks doesn’t (though the app also felt a bit less snappy than OpenBlocks and speed is really important), but the general experience as a new user was a bit much.
  - foxbee 4y ago
    Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. You don't have to go through that flow. You can just use the docs and run it using digital ocean, docker, linode, kubernetes... But! We are updating our onboarding to be quicker. In re to app perf, it's a little surprising. It's an area we don't get much neg feedback on so I'm happy you reported it. I'll feed this back to the team.
    - barnabee 4y ago
      Thanks for the response. I'll definitely give it a proper look and try out self hosting. It's actually quite nice that you have a "Budibase DB" option which might come in really handy compared with OpenBlocks. And yeah, I realise I could just self host immediately but I wanted to use the cloud version to decide whether to make that effort and that was where the flow sort of got in the way (though I wonder now if there might have been an option to cancel it earlier or skip it that I missed…). Re: the perf, I honestly don't think it is all that bad, but interactions just felt a bit less instant straight after using OpenBlocks. It might even just have been the animations in the UI giving that feeling :) EDIT: actually, a couple of examples of the performance difference I have just noticed are: 1. The speed the selection outlines of the components follow the mouse hover in the designer. 2. The speed of updates of the designer when properties are changed, for example OpenBlocks both updates the text of a text element in real time and does it nearly instantly, whereas Budibase waits for pressing enter (which I think is fine) and has a noticeable delay. The delays seems to be there with all property edits. It feels like perhaps a server round trip vs optimistically updating the display locally, but is definitely noticeable.
devdiary 4y ago
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donqu1xote1 4y ago
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jerryxumaomao 4y ago
Let's try out ILLA! I am one of the team members of ILLA. It's very stable and easy to use. (https://github.com/illacloud/illa-builder https://github.com/illacloud/illa-builder) let me know if you have any concerns or questions!

raviparikh 4y ago

What about Appsmith/Tooljet fell short for you?

Multrex 4y ago
Appsmith you can't create good looking apps and the responsiveness is not good. Tooljet is good but it didn't click me. Basically I'm not developer but i know good SQL and WordPress. I really want something like Elementor page builder but with low code functionalities.

shuaihan 4y ago

Thanks for your appreciation. It's stable. We write a lot of tests to make sure everything works.

foxbee 4y ago

Have you tried Budibase? For reference, I am the cofounder of Budibase and we're planning 2023 so I am super-eager for feedback. https://github.com/Budibase/budibase https://github.com/Budibase/budibase

kwerk 4y ago
Fwiw BigQuery support is what kept me from testing budibase and using retool for a project just 2 weeks ago.
- foxbee 4y ago
  Ahhh. We have a plugin repo now and there's a plugin for BigQuery: https://github.com/marblekirby/budibase-big-query-plugin https://github.com/marblekirby/budibase-big-query-plugin
  - kwerk 4y ago
    Whoa great! I’ll give it a go
  - kwerk 4y ago
    I missed it because there’s an open issue for it: https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/4403 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/4403
Multrex 4y ago
Budibase is my next option until they implement full drag and drop functionality. Also one thing that stopped me from using budibase now is: "pagination not working on tables which use queries or relationship data". Other tools can handle something similar. https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/6226 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/6226 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/3974 https://github.com/Budibase/budibase/issues/3974
- foxbee 4y ago
  Fwiw Budibase has drag and drop now (released a couple of weeks ago)
sagaro 4y ago
I have been using budibase for pretty much all my internal tooling at an Ecom startup. it is pretty good for pretty much most usecases.
barnabee 4y ago
Some feedback, as you asked for it and I signed up for both OpenBlocks and Budibase cloud versions today to try them out: (NB: If I like either or both of them I’ll self host, as I have no interest in SaaS, indeed it’s what’s stopped me from using things like Retool despite missing RAD tools ever since Delphi stopped being a viable solution for me.) OpenBlocks dropped me quickly into its pretty snappy app (literally just connected Github and done) and I was away and designing a simple screen in no time. Budibase on the other hand asked me a bunch of questions about my “company” and job, then dumped me straight into a wizard to create or connect to a database. It felt like ages before I could start clicking and playing around. I nearly gave up and left at least twice and in fact ended up only trying the actual tools in Budibase out for a much shorter time as a result. Maybe I’ll go back to it later, but I’m already planning to deploy an OpenBlocks instance to mess around with more. I massively prefer the OpenBlocks approach here. I want to be dropped quickly into a powerful and intuitive tool, not taken through a signup and data harvesting flow nor invited to create an app through a series of wizards. From what I see Budibase looks promising and it seems to have some features that OpenBlocks doesn’t (though the app also felt a bit less snappy than OpenBlocks and speed is really important), but the general experience as a new user was a bit much.
- foxbee 4y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. You don't have to go through that flow. You can just use the docs and run it using digital ocean, docker, linode, kubernetes... But! We are updating our onboarding to be quicker. In re to app perf, it's a little surprising. It's an area we don't get much neg feedback on so I'm happy you reported it. I'll feed this back to the team.
  - barnabee 4y ago
    Thanks for the response. I'll definitely give it a proper look and try out self hosting. It's actually quite nice that you have a "Budibase DB" option which might come in really handy compared with OpenBlocks. And yeah, I realise I could just self host immediately but I wanted to use the cloud version to decide whether to make that effort and that was where the flow sort of got in the way (though I wonder now if there might have been an option to cancel it earlier or skip it that I missed…). Re: the perf, I honestly don't think it is all that bad, but interactions just felt a bit less instant straight after using OpenBlocks. It might even just have been the animations in the UI giving that feeling :) EDIT: actually, a couple of examples of the performance difference I have just noticed are: 1. The speed the selection outlines of the components follow the mouse hover in the designer. 2. The speed of updates of the designer when properties are changed, for example OpenBlocks both updates the text of a text element in real time and does it nearly instantly, whereas Budibase waits for pressing enter (which I think is fine) and has a noticeable delay. The delays seems to be there with all property edits. It feels like perhaps a server round trip vs optimistically updating the display locally, but is definitely noticeable.

devdiary 4y ago

same question

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donqu1xote1 4y ago

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jerryxumaomao 4y ago

Let's try out ILLA! I am one of the team members of ILLA. It's very stable and easy to use. (https://github.com/illacloud/illa-builder https://github.com/illacloud/illa-builder) let me know if you have any concerns or questions!