>> The socialist welfare state cannot be extended to foreigners or it would run out of € Here's what's odd about the USA. I know people from India and Canada,

>> The socialist welfare state cannot be extended to foreigners or it would run out of € Here's what's odd about the USA. I know people from India and Canada, who were here and their visa expired, and they couldn't get a job, so they have to leave. I also know people from Mexico, who are here illegally/undocumented/whatever, and they don't leave. They stay for years. Because you don't already have an expired visa, you can file taxes (and get a refund!), open a bank account, get a driver's license, etc. But if you were in the process of coming here legally, they have your number and you're done. I mean, they have to leave just like the first example. But they don't. Zero fucking sense.