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Isn't this literally what's happening? (Except it's 4 months, not 3?)

adulion 4y ago
he's probably been given the pay but not the time to find his feet
m000 4y ago
The problem is not so much the money, but the damn Visa: The moment you become unemployed, the countdown clock to deportation starts ticking. This is a HUGE stress, and also puts you at a disadvantage against your prospect employers. IMHO, there should be legislation for covering these cases. I.e. when you sponsor a Visa as an employer, it should be mandatory to pay the employee for a minimum of 12-24 months. If you want to lay them off, that's fine, but legally they would still be considered employed and paid in full until that grace period expires.
- Avicebron 4y ago
  This why it happens, the company I work with would rather hire someone who is in a tight bind if their employment goes away, they'll work harder, be scared to lose it. etc. its called the H1B solution
- blarghyblarg 4y ago
  Depending on the type of visa, it's not even like the situation depends on employment. I've seen a few people with stable jobs sent home from the US when their visa came up for renewal. Immigrating to the west, the USA in particular but also Canada, involves an element of luck, beyond what most people realize. edit: To be very fair, though, there is an implicit warning in the paperwork and interview for every US work visa for exactly this kind of situation. It's not like they're playing some gotcha game. They don't come right out and say it, but, it's also not exactly hidden between the lines or in small print.
- Kareem71 4y ago
  From my understanding the way layoffs were handled at meta for most ppl on visas the 60 day count down was not triggered until 2 months into severance
- smnrchrds 4y ago
  > The moment you become unemployed, the countdown clock to deportation starts ticking. I am NOT 100% sure about this, but to the best of my knowledge, this is not the case in Canada. Work Permits are issues for the duration of the expected work and are usually at least one year long. If you lose your job, you can still remain in Canada until the expiry date of your work permit. You cannot simply start working elsewhere, but if you find a new job, your new employer can start the process of applying for a work permit for you while you are waiting in Canada. So this developer should be good to stay for another 11 to 12 months, if not even longer, while searching for a new job.
sgerenser 4y ago
Yeah, I’m almost certain the articles I read about the layoffs said that those on a Visa are getting an extra 90 days or so on payroll to find other employment. Maybe I’m mixing it up with Twitter?

he's probably been given the pay but not the time to find his feet

m000 4y ago

The problem is not so much the money, but the damn Visa: The moment you become unemployed, the countdown clock to deportation starts ticking. This is a HUGE stress, and also puts you at a disadvantage against your prospect employers. IMHO, there should be legislation for covering these cases. I.e. when you sponsor a Visa as an employer, it should be mandatory to pay the employee for a minimum of 12-24 months. If you want to lay them off, that's fine, but legally they would still be considered employed and paid in full until that grace period expires.

Avicebron 4y ago
This why it happens, the company I work with would rather hire someone who is in a tight bind if their employment goes away, they'll work harder, be scared to lose it. etc. its called the H1B solution
blarghyblarg 4y ago
Depending on the type of visa, it's not even like the situation depends on employment. I've seen a few people with stable jobs sent home from the US when their visa came up for renewal. Immigrating to the west, the USA in particular but also Canada, involves an element of luck, beyond what most people realize. edit: To be very fair, though, there is an implicit warning in the paperwork and interview for every US work visa for exactly this kind of situation. It's not like they're playing some gotcha game. They don't come right out and say it, but, it's also not exactly hidden between the lines or in small print.
Kareem71 4y ago
From my understanding the way layoffs were handled at meta for most ppl on visas the 60 day count down was not triggered until 2 months into severance
smnrchrds 4y ago
> The moment you become unemployed, the countdown clock to deportation starts ticking. I am NOT 100% sure about this, but to the best of my knowledge, this is not the case in Canada. Work Permits are issues for the duration of the expected work and are usually at least one year long. If you lose your job, you can still remain in Canada until the expiry date of your work permit. You cannot simply start working elsewhere, but if you find a new job, your new employer can start the process of applying for a work permit for you while you are waiting in Canada. So this developer should be good to stay for another 11 to 12 months, if not even longer, while searching for a new job.

sgerenser 4y ago

Yeah, I’m almost certain the articles I read about the layoffs said that those on a Visa are getting an extra 90 days or so on payroll to find other employment. Maybe I’m mixing it up with Twitter?