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You don't need child care when women aren't in the work force.
by thrown_22 4y ago
You don't need child care when women aren't in the work force.
- jojobas 4y agoYou also don't need baby formula and get (other things equal) physically and mentally healthier kids.
- thriftwy 4y agoA long maternity leave will do. What if women genuinely want to have identity based on what they do? Full time employment is probably the thing which has to go in favor of reproduction, it's akin peonage in that regard.
- bergenty 4y agoWhat if I want to have identity based on something I don’t do? We all want things but society can’t always sustain itself that way.
- thriftwy 4y agoLet's imagine you want to have an identity of a person working for a hot start-up. How would you explain that a 25 years old male can be a first developer employee in a start-up, but a 25 years old female can't be a talent acquisition manager there? And then fail to crop up a period of inactivity in their career to have a child?
- jojobas 4y agoYou have to sacrifice some things to achieve other things. If you want to sacrifice procreation for a career, you won't be the first to be taken care of by evolution.
- thriftwy 4y agoSo you want some other people to sacrifice their life goals in order to achieve yours? I'm just not sure how it works in practice. And yeah, they would be taken care of by evolution.
- jojobas 4y agoThere is not much free will, people's goals are informed by what they see about high-status individuals. It's very regrettable that being a mother (or a father) is no longer seen as an achievement at all.
- thriftwy 4y agoIt's hard making a moderate-income 3+ chidren family the role model. It's obvious how you would like to exploit their fertility but they still have to foot the financial, logistic and labor costs of raising a lot of children. Especially hard if you expect mother to not have her life while having all these kids, who are then going to depart their home and make her life even more eventless.
- jojobas 4y agoA family with 2-3 children was the definition of "poster family" in the US up to at least the 60s. Then something started to shift. Again, the majority of people in the West are better off than the majority of people anywhere else, affording children is a matter of life priorities.
- thriftwy 4y agoAs I've already said, you can't buy time, and that's the coin people in the West may have in even shorter supply than their peers elsewhere. Israel kind of shows that having the life priorities that you desire is possible. But I'm not sure how to do that in practice, or even if it is feasible until the current population Ponzi scheme wears off and then a few generations pass.