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Layoffs are a fact of life in running a business. Treating people poorly is a choice.
by alkonaut 4y ago
Layoffs are a fact of life in running a business. Treating people poorly is a choice.
- yreg 4y agoDo we have a reason to believe he was treated poorly?
- Ar-Curunir 4y agoDid you read the title?
- yreg 4y agoYes. It doesn't say anything about how they compensated him.
- alkonaut 4y agoIs there always a dollar figure when some treatment becomes acceptable?
- yreg 4y agoDepends on the treatment. If someone tortures me, then probably not. If someone hires me, I move to the other side of the world, they fire me in two days and pay me out a million dollars, then I would say it is very acceptable. Also, compensation might be more than money.
- mafuy 4y agoI don't think you appreciate how difficult it is to navigate in a foreign country with no help. You could well be given $100 million and end up on the street because you were unable to complete the move-in process on your own. It's not like you can wave with dollars bills to fix this.
- yreg 4y agoI'm 100% sure that with my 100M I would be able to find a place to live in Canada without any help. I would also be able to buy a plane ticket and find a new place to live in my home country. But anyway, how do you know Meta is not helping him "complete the move-in process"? That's what I'm ranting about here — we know NOTHING about the terms and circumstances with which they've ended the contract. Yet you all seem to be incredibly sure that it was handled poorly.
- paulcole 4y agoI don’t think you appreciate how much money $100 million is. You can literally wave massive piles of dollar bills at nearly any problem and fix it. People have gotten away with murder for much less money. I think you can avoid homelessness with it as well. Even 1/100th that amount would solve a huge number of problems.
- paulcole 4y agoWhen the treatment is being fired, then yes.
- remus 4y agoThe headline seems a pretty clear example of the employee being treated poorly imo.
- yreg 4y agoSo 'not being laid off' is a necessary condition of not being treated poorly? The severance amount or any other services provided are irrelevant, because he was implicitly treated poorly by having contract terminated?
- nisegami 4y ago>The severance amount or any other services provided are irrelevant, because he was implicitly treated poorly by having contract terminated? Yes, I'm glad you understand that after a months-long period of preparing to uproot his entire life, it is cruel to him to immediately go back on your word.
- yreg 4y agoDon't pretend I agree with you. I merely understand what is your view.
- alkonaut 4y agoI think the article describes in detail someone being treated poorly yes. Even in mass layoffs, every single employee should be treated with more care and consideration than this. Freezing hires entirely for a period before any layoffs could prevent this from happening for example.
- yreg 4y agoBut the article doesn't go into the terms of his termination at all!
- kcplate 4y agoYou can’t assume that recruiting has been told that layoffs are coming. Likely they are in the dark intentionally. A hiring freeze would be news that could negatively affect stock price for a well known public company. Think of layoffs as a controlled PR burn, you don’t want to go set off a bunch of little random fires ahead of the big event that might burn out of control.
- Tao3300 4y agoOkay, it's back to basics, I guess... How would you feel if someone did this to you? 1. :-) 2. :-| 3. :-( How do you think someone else would feel if you did this to them? 1. :-) 2. :-| 3. :-(
- yreg 4y agoI need to know the terms of ending the contract to pick a face. It can be any of them.