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Maybe read about the topic before immediately discrediting it entirely? One example of decolonizing science is simply giving proper attribution for scientific

Maybe read about the topic before immediately discrediting it entirely? One example of decolonizing science is simply giving proper attribution for scientific discoveries that come from the global south, but are in the textbooks as being discovered by europeans. Of which there are numerous examples.

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gloryjulio 4y ago
If that's only thing they are doing, how about just call it giving the right credit?
- creatonez 4y ago
  Because that's completely sanitizing the reasons attribution wasn't given in the first place, which were often either explicitly racially motivated, or deeply involved in the logistics of settler colonialism. Calling it what it is seems like a good idea.
  - jwarden 4y ago
    Fairly attributing blame for the non-attribution of credit is not going to be easy.
  - ramblerman 4y ago
    Sure but there are subjects and places to discuss that. Do you think biology, physics, maths all need to come with their own disclaimer each time.
Natsu 4y ago
That gets into what we even mean by calling someone the "inventor" of someone. Plenty of people made flying contraptions of one sort or another, such as Clément Ader, Gustave Whitehead, Richard Pearse, and Karl Jatho But the Wright Bros caused the world to start flying, finding errors in the prior equations for lift and making practical planes capable of sustained flight as well as the means to control them. The others on that list contributed in their own ways, but did not have the same impact.
thaw13579 4y ago
Perhaps it’s best to avoid attribution at all when presenting scientific and mathematical ideas themselves? There are many contexts when priority claims are messy (colonialism and not) and are fundamentally an oversimplification of an incremental process that involves many people. I do think there is an important place for describing the people who did the work, perhaps in the context of history of science and math.

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gloryjulio 4y ago

If that's only thing they are doing, how about just call it giving the right credit?

creatonez 4y ago
Because that's completely sanitizing the reasons attribution wasn't given in the first place, which were often either explicitly racially motivated, or deeply involved in the logistics of settler colonialism. Calling it what it is seems like a good idea.
- jwarden 4y ago
  Fairly attributing blame for the non-attribution of credit is not going to be easy.
- ramblerman 4y ago
  Sure but there are subjects and places to discuss that. Do you think biology, physics, maths all need to come with their own disclaimer each time.

Natsu 4y ago

That gets into what we even mean by calling someone the "inventor" of someone. Plenty of people made flying contraptions of one sort or another, such as Clément Ader, Gustave Whitehead, Richard Pearse, and Karl Jatho But the Wright Bros caused the world to start flying, finding errors in the prior equations for lift and making practical planes capable of sustained flight as well as the means to control them. The others on that list contributed in their own ways, but did not have the same impact.

thaw13579 4y ago

Perhaps it’s best to avoid attribution at all when presenting scientific and mathematical ideas themselves? There are many contexts when priority claims are messy (colonialism and not) and are fundamentally an oversimplification of an incremental process that involves many people. I do think there is an important place for describing the people who did the work, perhaps in the context of history of science and math.