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Making and installing solar panels doesn't cost anywhere that much CO2. Best numbers I see suggest payback in ~3 years assuming they're produced with coal power
by aperson_hello 4y ago
Making and installing solar panels doesn't cost anywhere that much CO2. Best numbers I see suggest payback in ~3 years assuming they're produced with coal power (and the numbers are better if they're produced with cleaner power, though electricity is fungible, so I'm not sure if that really makes sense to do). As a quick gut check, look at unsubsidized solar install costs - they're significantly lower than the cost of the electricity they generate in the 5-10 year range in almost all lower and middle latitude places...
Also, idiots stating unscientific garbage (like the world ending in 2028) doesn't mean that there's no science behind it... Just that there was an idiot making up BS.
Edit: it was a 2019 quote, not a 2016 quote. So we have all the way until 2031 until the world "ends"... Still an idiotic quote
- __pache__ 4y ago> Making and installing solar panels doesn't cost anywhere that much CO2. ...source? Solar is unreliable, you _need_ another system, so you have to install 2 systems now. It _will_ be cheaper/less co2/etc.etc. to just install and use 1 system. The real solution to reducing overall CO2 is clearly Nuclear. Do you disagree with this?
- aperson_hello 4y agoNuclear should be part of the solution. Solar is just too cheap not to do be part of it too. Since there are on demand sources (natural gas peakers, batteries, etc.) and because solar isn't replacing clean sources at this point in time, solar (and wind) can and should be part of the energy mix! Here's one source. Plenty more if you Google it https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/35489.pdf https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/35489.pdf
- __pache__ 4y agowhat should I be looking at in this source? how does it scale? you can scale nuclear/hydro very easily for millions of people .. they inherently scale. solar does not, you need tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of panels. it does not scale. this seems so self evident. like people are holding their hands over their ears and eyes, ignoring the obvious...
- Schroedingersat 4y agoHow much new net renewables capacity was installed last year? What was the largest capacity of nuclear ever installed in a single year? Solar is scaling just fine. Installing 5-20 panels per person is hardly prohibitive. It's like claiming wheat can't feed people because it needs trillions of grains so we must stop wheat farming and only eat novelty sized pumpkin and elephant.
- aperson_hello 4y agoSolar absolutely scales - in the factory...