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Public Schools are looking for STEM teachers.

by spicyusername 4y ago

plim8481 4y ago
How would you break in to this without going through school again to get certified?
- LarryMade2 4y ago
  If you have the knowledge they might hire you as a teachers assistant helping the teacher with curricula and teaching the subject.
- dsr_ 4y ago
  In almost every school district, there is an emergency rule that says that a bachelor's degree in an appropriate field is enough. That said, unless you have a passion for teaching and an enormous tolerance for people making mistakes, I would avoid this.
  - deleted 4y ago
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- Jtsummers 4y ago
  Many school systems (in the US) will hire on a provisional basis, especially for STEM teachers because they are often so desperate for them. You usually get 1-3 years to complete some certifications and then move into the regular CLP style continuous learning after that.
- laomai 4y ago
  Become a substitute teacher first. I've heard good STEM substitutes are hard to find. (and frequently rebooked) It'll also a low bar way to test out whether you enjoy teaching, and which age range you prefer to teach.
  - the_only_law 4y ago
    How does that pay though? I know OP mentioned they’re fine with a paycut, but I my understanding was subs tend to get a low per-diem pay that would probably end up much less than 1/3 of what they were getting in tech. Most subs I remember tended to be rather old and I imagine they were mostly supplementing other income.
    - germinalphrase 4y ago
      In the upper Midwest, somewhere between 100-200 per day is typical.
    - SoftTalker 4y ago
      Just be ready to get called at 5AM for work at 7AM at a school that could be an hour away, and then get treated like shit by the staff and the kids. You could not pay me enough to do that.
- blowski 4y ago
  It's a huge amount of work, but I've met a couple of people who set up their own out of hours "school" and have been running it for years. That said, they lost money on it and even now it only breaks even in a good year, so it depends whether you're looking for a worthy occupation to fill your time, or something to do.
trashface 4y ago
Possibly not great for men: "One of my sons works in early education. He can talk quite movingly about the stigma that you'll face as a man. People will question your motives. At worst, some people will suggest, either jokingly or not, that you might be motivated by pedophilia. "What is it about young kids that appeals to you?" is the kind of question you hear. There are some quite nasty stereotypes around men in those professions." https://www.upr.org/npr-news/npr-news/2022-11-04/men-are-struggling-a-new-book-explores-why-and-what-to-do-about-it https://www.upr.org/npr-news/npr-news/2022-11-04/men-are-str...
- blowski 4y ago
  ...and repeating such stereotypes like this only serves to further them. Let's not spread such nonsense.
- elvis70 4y ago
  I hope you are exaggerating
- mlyle 4y ago
  Early education --- preschool and perhaps early elementary --- is admittedly a tough place for men. On the other hand, someone who's spent a lot of time honing technical skills probably belongs not teaching preschool & kindergarten but in upper elementary, middle school, or beyond. And I've found that a perfectly welcoming place as a middle school & high school teacher (and running after-school programs for upper elementary). A dirty little secret, too, is that men often have a much easier time with classroom management, etc, because of cultural biases.
- nopenopenopeno 4y ago
  A close friend just moved across the country and back because what he thought would be his dream teaching job turned out to be laced with dramatic and patently insane identity politics as described. He is himself a socialist passionate about helping poor working class people, but his coworkers were snotty out-of-touch liberals with no conception of class divisions at all. They were intent on dividing society along gender lines.

Public Schools are looking for STEM teachers.

plim8481 4y ago

How would you break in to this without going through school again to get certified?

LarryMade2 4y ago
If you have the knowledge they might hire you as a teachers assistant helping the teacher with curricula and teaching the subject.
dsr_ 4y ago
In almost every school district, there is an emergency rule that says that a bachelor's degree in an appropriate field is enough. That said, unless you have a passion for teaching and an enormous tolerance for people making mistakes, I would avoid this.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
Jtsummers 4y ago
Many school systems (in the US) will hire on a provisional basis, especially for STEM teachers because they are often so desperate for them. You usually get 1-3 years to complete some certifications and then move into the regular CLP style continuous learning after that.
laomai 4y ago
Become a substitute teacher first. I've heard good STEM substitutes are hard to find. (and frequently rebooked) It'll also a low bar way to test out whether you enjoy teaching, and which age range you prefer to teach.
- the_only_law 4y ago
  How does that pay though? I know OP mentioned they’re fine with a paycut, but I my understanding was subs tend to get a low per-diem pay that would probably end up much less than 1/3 of what they were getting in tech. Most subs I remember tended to be rather old and I imagine they were mostly supplementing other income.
  - germinalphrase 4y ago
    In the upper Midwest, somewhere between 100-200 per day is typical.
  - SoftTalker 4y ago
    Just be ready to get called at 5AM for work at 7AM at a school that could be an hour away, and then get treated like shit by the staff and the kids. You could not pay me enough to do that.
blowski 4y ago
It's a huge amount of work, but I've met a couple of people who set up their own out of hours "school" and have been running it for years. That said, they lost money on it and even now it only breaks even in a good year, so it depends whether you're looking for a worthy occupation to fill your time, or something to do.

trashface 4y ago

Possibly not great for men: "One of my sons works in early education. He can talk quite movingly about the stigma that you'll face as a man. People will question your motives. At worst, some people will suggest, either jokingly or not, that you might be motivated by pedophilia. "What is it about young kids that appeals to you?" is the kind of question you hear. There are some quite nasty stereotypes around men in those professions." https://www.upr.org/npr-news/npr-news/2022-11-04/men-are-struggling-a-new-book-explores-why-and-what-to-do-about-it https://www.upr.org/npr-news/npr-news/2022-11-04/men-are-str...

blowski 4y ago
...and repeating such stereotypes like this only serves to further them. Let's not spread such nonsense.
elvis70 4y ago
I hope you are exaggerating
mlyle 4y ago
Early education --- preschool and perhaps early elementary --- is admittedly a tough place for men. On the other hand, someone who's spent a lot of time honing technical skills probably belongs not teaching preschool & kindergarten but in upper elementary, middle school, or beyond. And I've found that a perfectly welcoming place as a middle school & high school teacher (and running after-school programs for upper elementary). A dirty little secret, too, is that men often have a much easier time with classroom management, etc, because of cultural biases.
nopenopenopeno 4y ago
A close friend just moved across the country and back because what he thought would be his dream teaching job turned out to be laced with dramatic and patently insane identity politics as described. He is himself a socialist passionate about helping poor working class people, but his coworkers were snotty out-of-touch liberals with no conception of class divisions at all. They were intent on dividing society along gender lines.