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I ran an open source project management system for years and I'll say: Good luck. In short, everyone has their own dreams, preferences, (perceived)needs, and w

I ran an open source project management system for years and I'll say: Good luck. In short, everyone has their own dreams, preferences, (perceived)needs, and workflows and they are usually unwilling to tweak their own approach and would rather have a tool that fits them. They may be right that their "needs" are truly needs instead of just preferences but either way, you end up with a swarm of nasty little variations that are meaningless for vast swathes of the space. That's why any list of "project management tools" has 100+ entries and is still incomplete. ~10 years back, I realized that most of the people who are open minded enough tweaked their own processes to flip to something like Trello (as I did a few years later). They're still unsatisfied - I wish Trello had intercard dependencies and per-checklist item due dates - but making due. Happy to offer more info and advice, feel free to ping me.

ar_lan 4y ago
So far paper and pen is still effectively the most malleable productivity environment that conforms to all my needs.
- ilyt 4y ago
  My writing is far too ugly for that. Also no grep. But I thought about one of those e-paper notepads thingies...
- tonypham 4y ago
  I did use paper and pen before but finally ended up with digital apps.
- jansan 4y ago
  This stops working if you are in a team. I have one project that I work on by myself, and another that involves a small team. The first one is only pen and paper and some github issues, the other is using Github's project management features extensively and it would not work without something like this.
- systemicdanna 4y ago
  Only for personal use though. Any team of 2+ people will struggle to keep track of paper notes.
  - ar_lan 4y ago
    Oh, completely agree!
tonypham 4y ago
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Yeah I agree with you that it's hard to convince people to tweak their process, but the opposite is true. Hopefully, we can attract (enough) people who find Upbase a good fit, not the other way around.
pydry 4y ago
This can probably be boiled down to a config language that can be used to express various needs and preferences. The problem is enumerating them all and consolidating the language such that it is neither more nor less expressive than necessary. Then we can truly dump JIRA once and for all.
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peterlavigne 4y ago
> I wish Trello had intercard dependencies and per-checklist item due dates Intercard dependencies may be covered by a power-up[1]. Per-checklist item due dates were added in the last couple years[2]. 1. https://screenful.com/card-dependencies-for-trello https://screenful.com/card-dependencies-for-trello 2. https://support.atlassian.com/trello/docs/how-to-use-advanced-checklists-to-set-due-dates/#Checklist-due-dates https://support.atlassian.com/trello/docs/how-to-use-advance...

ar_lan 4y ago

So far paper and pen is still effectively the most malleable productivity environment that conforms to all my needs.

ilyt 4y ago
My writing is far too ugly for that. Also no grep. But I thought about one of those e-paper notepads thingies...
tonypham 4y ago
I did use paper and pen before but finally ended up with digital apps.
jansan 4y ago
This stops working if you are in a team. I have one project that I work on by myself, and another that involves a small team. The first one is only pen and paper and some github issues, the other is using Github's project management features extensively and it would not work without something like this.
systemicdanna 4y ago
Only for personal use though. Any team of 2+ people will struggle to keep track of paper notes.
- ar_lan 4y ago
  Oh, completely agree!

tonypham 4y ago

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Yeah I agree with you that it's hard to convince people to tweak their process, but the opposite is true. Hopefully, we can attract (enough) people who find Upbase a good fit, not the other way around.

pydry 4y ago

This can probably be boiled down to a config language that can be used to express various needs and preferences. The problem is enumerating them all and consolidating the language such that it is neither more nor less expressive than necessary. Then we can truly dump JIRA once and for all.

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peterlavigne 4y ago

> I wish Trello had intercard dependencies and per-checklist item due dates Intercard dependencies may be covered by a power-up[1]. Per-checklist item due dates were added in the last couple years[2]. 1. https://screenful.com/card-dependencies-for-trello https://screenful.com/card-dependencies-for-trello 2. https://support.atlassian.com/trello/docs/how-to-use-advanced-checklists-to-set-due-dates/#Checklist-due-dates https://support.atlassian.com/trello/docs/how-to-use-advance...