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Called it here back when it launched. Streaming video of a slightly more powerful browser in a browser (electron) never made sense to me. And the few people wh

Called it here back when it launched. Streaming video of a slightly more powerful browser in a browser (electron) never made sense to me. And the few people who really had that usecase could just use a lightweight container running chromium + guacamole on a nearby server. Okay I'm sure Mighty used cool tech to make it faster than just that (idk how it worked but maybe they were transmitting changed HTML) but at its core the idea was not something normal people and 99% engineers would ever consider. Anyone rich enough to pay for it would just pay for a more powerful machine. Anyways, they said they have 50% of VC money left and will be using it to create an online stable diffusion thingy which atleast fifteen startups are doing already including stability AI themselves. How can they differentiate ? Can they just use leftover VC money to make a completely different thing ?

swyx 4y ago
"you are not better because you see the world in an odious light"
- cercatrova 4y ago
  Then we should make the opposite true as well, ie PG calling envy the only reason domain experts could be pessimistic about a future technology. He was too arrogant in those words such that when it failed, he should rightly be denigrated for his hubris.
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gleb-arestov 4y ago
I've just looked into Mighty. It has delays for hover css effects & scrolling. Also it has "Debug > Enable H264 encoding" option. So Mighty streams video. I think replicating DOM & sending diffs instead of video should 1) saves resources on encoding for server 2) saves decoding on client 3) send much lower data 4) feels much better since instant scrolling/hover (something like https://www.rrweb.io/ https://www.rrweb.io/) I'm indie/solo making Linkkraft browser (to make a living from it). Browser to be effective researcher & collector. It visualizes your steps as tree and makes html snapshot for your each step (even steps in SPAs like twitter). https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/comparing/linkkraft-vs-chrome.mp4 https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/comparing/linkkraf... https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-offline-for-tool-for-thoughts/linkkraft-fresh-offline-spa.mp4 https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-o... As side effect of snapshots you can confidently unload documents & save CPU/memory. Looking forward to grow that snapshotting part into DOM streaming. So you can run "browser server" on your own PC, while having laptop fast & cool. With almost 0 delays and without worrying about privacy.
- Juice10 4y ago
  Core team member of rrweb here: I've seen a number of tools do as you suggest so I think stepping away from video for the dom makes sense. PS. Linkkraft looks cool
Cyberdog 4y ago
> Called it here back when it launched. Streaming video of a slightly more powerful browser in a browser (electron) never made sense to me. Wait, the client was an Electron app? Are you serious? If so, this just goes from a poorly-executed idea to an outright fraud.
- IceWreck 4y ago
  From their description: We write code primarily in C++/JavaScript/TypeScript. Our application is a desktop Electron app where the front-end is in JS while the bits that need to be fast are written in C++.

swyx 4y ago

"you are not better because you see the world in an odious light"

cercatrova 4y ago
Then we should make the opposite true as well, ie PG calling envy the only reason domain experts could be pessimistic about a future technology. He was too arrogant in those words such that when it failed, he should rightly be denigrated for his hubris.

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gleb-arestov 4y ago

I've just looked into Mighty. It has delays for hover css effects & scrolling. Also it has "Debug > Enable H264 encoding" option. So Mighty streams video. I think replicating DOM & sending diffs instead of video should 1) saves resources on encoding for server 2) saves decoding on client 3) send much lower data 4) feels much better since instant scrolling/hover (something like https://www.rrweb.io/ https://www.rrweb.io/) I'm indie/solo making Linkkraft browser (to make a living from it). Browser to be effective researcher & collector. It visualizes your steps as tree and makes html snapshot for your each step (even steps in SPAs like twitter). https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/comparing/linkkraft-vs-chrome.mp4 https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/comparing/linkkraf... https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-offline-for-tool-for-thoughts/linkkraft-fresh-offline-spa.mp4 https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-o... As side effect of snapshots you can confidently unload documents & save CPU/memory. Looking forward to grow that snapshotting part into DOM streaming. So you can run "browser server" on your own PC, while having laptop fast & cool. With almost 0 delays and without worrying about privacy.

Juice10 4y ago
Core team member of rrweb here: I've seen a number of tools do as you suggest so I think stepping away from video for the dom makes sense. PS. Linkkraft looks cool

Cyberdog 4y ago

> Called it here back when it launched. Streaming video of a slightly more powerful browser in a browser (electron) never made sense to me. Wait, the client was an Electron app? Are you serious? If so, this just goes from a poorly-executed idea to an outright fraud.

IceWreck 4y ago
From their description: We write code primarily in C++/JavaScript/TypeScript. Our application is a desktop Electron app where the front-end is in JS while the bits that need to be fast are written in C++.