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By the time the vaccine was widely available we were in full Omicron territory and there was already no risk to hospitals overflowing. For background, if it ma
by Consultant32452 4y ago
By the time the vaccine was widely available we were in full Omicron territory and there was already no risk to hospitals overflowing.
For background, if it matters to you, I believe the vaccine saved many thousands of lives of elderly people. It probably did not save the lives of any meaningful number of young healthy people because those people were statistically not at risk of covid. So I believe the vaccine was safe enough and effective enough to use, particularly for the elderly and people with certain co-morbidities. Lack of risk stratification is ANOTHER violation of the social contract.
The criminally sinister thing about vaccine mandates is that the people at risk of severe covid were already lined up out the door to get a vaccine. You didn't have to mandate it for anyone, much less the people who were at practically no risk of covid since it would not stop the spread.
- harimau777 4y agoThat wasn't the case here. The vaccine was available to everyone and the hospitals were overflowing with people who refused to get it.
- Consultant32452 4y agoI saw news articles like that too. There was particular concern about ICU beds. Then I checked the NYT live feed of ICU occupancy and it showed that ICU occupancy was barely higher than the historic average. We converted a stadium into a field hospital in NY that was never used. We sent the Navy medical ship, the Mercy to NY. It was never used. Also, hospitals were full of people who got covid, had mild or no symptoms, and went to the hospital anyways because the news terrified them. None of these comments deny the fact that a terribly unfortunate number of people died from Covid. The very first vaccines came out in July 2021, but were not widely available. Omicron was here by November.