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From my understanding: these meds will suppress testosterone production from your own body and you might be dependent on such meds for the rest of your life. S

by wsc981 4y ago

From my understanding: these meds will suppress testosterone production from your own body and you might be dependent on such meds for the rest of your life. So if there is no medical need, just healthy living (get enough sleep, exercise and eating good food) is the better approach to keeping testosterone levels up.

dogbox 4y ago
You are correct - unless there is an actual need for exogenous testosterone, you should avoid TRT. However, natural T levels will drop with age, and it's not too uncommon for men to hop on in their 40's or later. Sure you'll need to take it for the rest of your life, but it's generally worth the improvement of quality of life.
vsareto 4y ago
Usually people get it if it already is down.
- wsc981 4y ago
  A couple of years ago I lived for half a year in Pattaya, Thailand and it seems these kinds of therapies were advertised everywhere. I was thinking perhaps here in Thailand these therapies might be used by people that don't really need it, perhaps to gain more muscle mass or such. Hence I made the remark.
cjbgkagh 4y ago
Post cycle meds have improved a huge amount and can reliably restart test production and get you back your normal baseline so that you are not stuck on them. But if you’re normal baseline is low then you’ll go back to needing TRT.
Silverback_VII 4y ago
And drinking onion juice. People laugh, but a 300% increase in rats should be enough of a reason for futher inquiry. https://www.ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html https://www.ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html and also "the only human study that directly link between onion and testosterone reveal a positive effect of onion extracts on testosterone" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6406961/#!po=9.64912 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6406961/#!po=9....
- Der_Einzige 4y ago
  Everyone knows this. Raw onion juice is a meme on 4chan for a reason.
15155 4y ago
> these meds will suppress testosterone production from your own body and you might be dependent on such meds for the rest of your life. Dependent while taking them, sure. Need a cite that says testosterone production won't restart upon cessation. This is also operating under the assumption that you have anything to suppress: if you're <=200ng/dl, you're not losing much in my humble opinion. The benefits of exogenous testosterone far outweigh the lifetime commitment aspect.

by wsc981 4y ago

dogbox 4y ago

You are correct - unless there is an actual need for exogenous testosterone, you should avoid TRT. However, natural T levels will drop with age, and it's not too uncommon for men to hop on in their 40's or later. Sure you'll need to take it for the rest of your life, but it's generally worth the improvement of quality of life.

vsareto 4y ago

Usually people get it if it already is down.

wsc981 4y ago
A couple of years ago I lived for half a year in Pattaya, Thailand and it seems these kinds of therapies were advertised everywhere. I was thinking perhaps here in Thailand these therapies might be used by people that don't really need it, perhaps to gain more muscle mass or such. Hence I made the remark.

cjbgkagh 4y ago

Post cycle meds have improved a huge amount and can reliably restart test production and get you back your normal baseline so that you are not stuck on them. But if you’re normal baseline is low then you’ll go back to needing TRT.

Silverback_VII 4y ago

And drinking onion juice. People laugh, but a 300% increase in rats should be enough of a reason for futher inquiry. https://www.ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html https://www.ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html and also "the only human study that directly link between onion and testosterone reveal a positive effect of onion extracts on testosterone" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6406961/#!po=9.64912 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6406961/#!po=9....

Der_Einzige 4y ago
Everyone knows this. Raw onion juice is a meme on 4chan for a reason.

15155 4y ago

> these meds will suppress testosterone production from your own body and you might be dependent on such meds for the rest of your life. Dependent while taking them, sure. Need a cite that says testosterone production won't restart upon cessation. This is also operating under the assumption that you have anything to suppress: if you're <=200ng/dl, you're not losing much in my humble opinion. The benefits of exogenous testosterone far outweigh the lifetime commitment aspect.