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An Oracle developer's comment on why the DLJ was retired: http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html I think this won'

An Oracle developer's comment on why the DLJ was retired: http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html I think this won't have a big impact on Java development or use on Ubuntu. Ubuntu's bundled Sun java lagged behind the Oracle official releases, so it wasn't much different from OpenJDK. Disabling the Java browser plugin by default should have always been the sensible option. The plugin has always seemed like an infrequently used security liability.

ntkachov 15y ago
Personally I've always had problems with OpenJDK on Ubuntu. Eclipse just doesn't run the same on the OpenJDK as it does on the SunJDK.
- bad_user 15y ago
  It happens to me too and considering my past experience with Eclipse I don't think OpenJDK is to be blamed - I just uninstalled Eclipse and went with IntelliJ IDEA. Works fine.
rlpb 15y ago
Unfortunately, Android development requires the Sun JDK: http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html AIUI, Ubuntu is the primary development platform for Android, (information on the same page), so perhaps Google will produce some kind of solution for this.
- ansible 15y ago
  I've used OpenJDK to build Gingerbread, and it seemed to work OK, but it wasn't extensively tested. Recently, I'd installed Sun's Java because I wanted minimal hiccups with building ICS. I guess we'll either have to install it manually, or give OpenJDK another try. Ugh. I try so hard these days not to install software manually.
sciurus 15y ago
This is an annoying situation. If Oracle won't allow third-party distribution of the JRE and JDK, they should maintain apt and yum repositories of their own. I'm not sure how they benefit from barring the effort of volunteers who made their software easier to use. I use Sun's JRE because OpenJDK's browser plugin does not work with the management interface of some hardware I use. I'm struggling to find a mailing list I can subscribe to in order to keep up with the updates I'll now have to manually download and install.
obtu 15y ago
robilad (Dalibor Topic) is the guy who spearheaded the GCJ and Classpath effort that led to Sun's JDK being GPL-ed. I don't know how I feel about him working at Oracle; is he more useful inside or outside?

ntkachov 15y ago

Personally I've always had problems with OpenJDK on Ubuntu. Eclipse just doesn't run the same on the OpenJDK as it does on the SunJDK.

bad_user 15y ago
It happens to me too and considering my past experience with Eclipse I don't think OpenJDK is to be blamed - I just uninstalled Eclipse and went with IntelliJ IDEA. Works fine.

rlpb 15y ago

Unfortunately, Android development requires the Sun JDK: http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html AIUI, Ubuntu is the primary development platform for Android, (information on the same page), so perhaps Google will produce some kind of solution for this.

ansible 15y ago
I've used OpenJDK to build Gingerbread, and it seemed to work OK, but it wasn't extensively tested. Recently, I'd installed Sun's Java because I wanted minimal hiccups with building ICS. I guess we'll either have to install it manually, or give OpenJDK another try. Ugh. I try so hard these days not to install software manually.

sciurus 15y ago

This is an annoying situation. If Oracle won't allow third-party distribution of the JRE and JDK, they should maintain apt and yum repositories of their own. I'm not sure how they benefit from barring the effort of volunteers who made their software easier to use. I use Sun's JRE because OpenJDK's browser plugin does not work with the management interface of some hardware I use. I'm struggling to find a mailing list I can subscribe to in order to keep up with the updates I'll now have to manually download and install.

obtu 15y ago

robilad (Dalibor Topic) is the guy who spearheaded the GCJ and Classpath effort that led to Sun's JDK being GPL-ed. I don't know how I feel about him working at Oracle; is he more useful inside or outside?