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> Climate change is one of the long term predictions that has been consistently confirmed with each passing year. While this is true, you're dismissing that th

> Climate change is one of the long term predictions that has been consistently confirmed with each passing year. While this is true, you're dismissing that the claims around climate change have been wildly wrong. The world should have ended a dozen times by now if we look at past predictions by "experts". I'm not denying climate change at all, and we definitely need to take actions to curb it. But I understand where the skepticism is coming from.

yodsanklai 4y ago
> The world should have ended a dozen times by now if we look at past predictions by "experts". Can you give some references where international panels of scientists have predicted the end of the world? We can't put entities such as IPCC at the same level as some random doomsayers.
- junofan 4y ago
  I mean that’s exactly why the IPCC was created in the 80s. People were tired of random experts doomsaying.
rcxdude 4y ago
A lot of such "predictions" tend to have come from non-experts, either misunderstanding experts or working on their own (and some deliberately misrepresenting experts in an attempt to discredite them). Usually when you look into them they were not expert consensus at the time. (That said, we are doing better than some of the 'worst case' predictions made previously, as those predictions assumed a rate of growth of emissions which did not happen).
cafeinux 4y ago
There's also the fact that many of those predictions were made with, in mind, the world as it was at the time. The truth is we have made great advances in reducing our CO² emissions, among other things, and have thus set back Doomsday. There's still a lot of work to do, but it just means that there's hope, and that we should not end our efforts just because "we are doomed anyway". Just as we shall all die one day, there's no reason to not try to take care of our bodies and lives.
- Fricken 4y ago
  We haven't made any advances in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Total global CO2 emissions have to be going down for that to be the case. We'll be hitting a new record this year.
  - TchoBeer 4y ago
    I vaguely remember a report from, I think it was the 90s? Where it predicted what would happen if CO2 emissions grew exponentially (no reduction in growth), linearly (reduction in growth), or stopped (complete cessation of growth). And because of CO2 reduction agreements we got to linear instead of exponential growth. I'll find the exact report and outcome I'm thinking of, but we can be hitting a new record this year and also it's not as bad as it could have been. Edit: it was a report by James Hansen in 1988.
nxm 4y ago
Maldives was supposed to be entirely underwater by 2020.
- random314 4y ago
  No, it wasn't. Stop making shit up.

yodsanklai 4y ago

> The world should have ended a dozen times by now if we look at past predictions by "experts". Can you give some references where international panels of scientists have predicted the end of the world? We can't put entities such as IPCC at the same level as some random doomsayers.

junofan 4y ago
I mean that’s exactly why the IPCC was created in the 80s. People were tired of random experts doomsaying.

rcxdude 4y ago

A lot of such "predictions" tend to have come from non-experts, either misunderstanding experts or working on their own (and some deliberately misrepresenting experts in an attempt to discredite them). Usually when you look into them they were not expert consensus at the time. (That said, we are doing better than some of the 'worst case' predictions made previously, as those predictions assumed a rate of growth of emissions which did not happen).

cafeinux 4y ago

There's also the fact that many of those predictions were made with, in mind, the world as it was at the time. The truth is we have made great advances in reducing our CO² emissions, among other things, and have thus set back Doomsday. There's still a lot of work to do, but it just means that there's hope, and that we should not end our efforts just because "we are doomed anyway". Just as we shall all die one day, there's no reason to not try to take care of our bodies and lives.

Fricken 4y ago
We haven't made any advances in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Total global CO2 emissions have to be going down for that to be the case. We'll be hitting a new record this year.
- TchoBeer 4y ago
  I vaguely remember a report from, I think it was the 90s? Where it predicted what would happen if CO2 emissions grew exponentially (no reduction in growth), linearly (reduction in growth), or stopped (complete cessation of growth). And because of CO2 reduction agreements we got to linear instead of exponential growth. I'll find the exact report and outcome I'm thinking of, but we can be hitting a new record this year and also it's not as bad as it could have been. Edit: it was a report by James Hansen in 1988.

nxm 4y ago

Maldives was supposed to be entirely underwater by 2020.

random314 4y ago
No, it wasn't. Stop making shit up.