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If you believe the theories about Epstein etc, jail is not always a secure place if people want you dead.

pclmulqdq 4y ago
The difference is that Epstein had dirt on them, some of which is also in a few little black books that the FBI has probably lost from their evidence locker. Epstein and Maxwell are the only human traffickers ever to be convicted without anyone in the DoJ even questioning who they trafficked children to. SBF and Madoff just took some of their money.
- ev0lv 4y ago
  >>who they trafficked children to Well, in the very least, we have flight logs. I think that's better than nothing.
wslh 4y ago
Interesting to discuss this. Assuming Epstein was killed, I think Epstein case is special for his strong connections with the US power AND knowledge about these people and organizations. I don't it is easy to work at the jail level (without leaving tracks) if you are not a US insider. I see the SBF case different: he has screwed people around the globe with multiple different ethics about how to solve the issue. I see his position comparable with Salman Rushdie situation but not related with religion. BTW, where can someone learn about the Epstein story? In the surface it seems a very rare character, for me, at least, it is difficult to connect the pederastian and procurer with someone who made a lot of money from other unknown activities. It seems these two, are separate things and it is not clear why he don't just pursued one of these activities and why he and Maxwell were abusing people at the same time instead of separating their business with their personal sexual choices. Top drug dealers see drugs as a business because having an addiction will ruin it.
heavyset_go 4y ago
Epstein had every reason in the world to kill himself. But yes, in general, prison is not a secure place if there are people that want you dead. You're around plenty of people who wouldn't blink at stabbing you if it means they'll get some money in their commissary account or if a gang compels them to do it.

The difference is that Epstein had dirt on them, some of which is also in a few little black books that the FBI has probably lost from their evidence locker. Epstein and Maxwell are the only human traffickers ever to be convicted without anyone in the DoJ even questioning who they trafficked children to. SBF and Madoff just took some of their money.

ev0lv 4y ago
>>who they trafficked children to Well, in the very least, we have flight logs. I think that's better than nothing.

wslh 4y ago

Interesting to discuss this. Assuming Epstein was killed, I think Epstein case is special for his strong connections with the US power AND knowledge about these people and organizations. I don't it is easy to work at the jail level (without leaving tracks) if you are not a US insider. I see the SBF case different: he has screwed people around the globe with multiple different ethics about how to solve the issue. I see his position comparable with Salman Rushdie situation but not related with religion. BTW, where can someone learn about the Epstein story? In the surface it seems a very rare character, for me, at least, it is difficult to connect the pederastian and procurer with someone who made a lot of money from other unknown activities. It seems these two, are separate things and it is not clear why he don't just pursued one of these activities and why he and Maxwell were abusing people at the same time instead of separating their business with their personal sexual choices. Top drug dealers see drugs as a business because having an addiction will ruin it.

heavyset_go 4y ago

Epstein had every reason in the world to kill himself. But yes, in general, prison is not a secure place if there are people that want you dead. You're around plenty of people who wouldn't blink at stabbing you if it means they'll get some money in their commissary account or if a gang compels them to do it.