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I'll chime in for raw honey even though it's not a plant. About 12-15 years ago I started getting pain in my right shoulder. This went on for about 6 months. My

by oblib 4y ago

I'll chime in for raw honey even though it's not a plant. About 12-15 years ago I started getting pain in my right shoulder. This went on for about 6 months. My wife and friends and my doctor told me it was "bursitis" and I'd need an operation to get rid of it. Back then going to the doctor was the leading cause of avoidable death so I wasn't keen on getting that operation (it's now the 3rd leading cause of avoidable death). I was whining about it one day to a friend of mine who was in his 70s and had been a pilot for the military and flew missions all over the world. He learned on lot doing that. He told me "Raw honey will cure that if you take a tablespoon every day for a few weeks" and explained it was actually an infection that the honey would kill. He was right. I bought some honey from a local bee keeper and it was exactly two weeks later that the pain was entirely gone. Right about that time a neighbor of mine stopped by and mentioned he was going to the hospital for an operation for the same thing in two weeks. I told him about the honey and he got some from the same bee keeper and it cured him too. Most doctors won't tell you raw honey will cure that. Most probably don't even know it will.

BiteCode_dev 4y ago
Same story but with propolis.
teaker 4y ago
Going to the doctor is a leading cause of death? I'd love to see the literature backing that claim up. Guess we all better cancel those annual checkups!
- adamiscool8 4y ago
  The figure has been disputed [0] but it originates from an analysis done by a John Hopkins University doctor published in the BMJ [1][2]: > We define death due to medical error as death due to 1) an error in judgment, skill, or coordination of care, 2) a diagnostic error, 3) a system defect resulting in death or a failure to rescue a patient from death, or 4) a preventable adverse event. The prevalence of death due to medical error leading to patient deaths has been established in the literature. From studies that analyzed documented health records, we calculated a pooled incidence rate of 251,454 deaths per year. > (1) If we project this quantity into the total number of deaths in the year 2013 (2,596,993 deaths), they would account for 9.7% of all deaths in the nation. > (2) This figure far surpasses the current third leading cause of death on the CDC’s most recent rank order. Moreover, the 251,454 estimate we derived from the literature is an underestimate because the studies conducted did not include outpatient deaths or deaths at home due to a medical error. [0] https://www.statnews.com/2016/05/09/medical-errors-deaths-bmj/ https://www.statnews.com/2016/05/09/medical-errors-deaths-bm... [1] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822345-Hopkins-CDC-letter.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822345-Hopkins-CDC-... [2] https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139 https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139
thethirdone 4y ago
From Mayo clinic: > Bursitis generally gets better on its own. [0] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bursitis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353247 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bursitis/diag...
- oblib 4y ago
  Well, as I said, I had it for around six months (or more) and it was getting worse the entire time, and after just a couple weeks of taking the raw honey it was gone. Same with my neighbor. So it was not, and did not, get better on its own. You can ignore what I've shared here if you want, or you can choose to learn something from it. I am very grateful for the person who told me about.
fy20 4y ago
If you haven't had real honey, I'd recommend you try and find some. I'm from the UK and thought the more 'luxury' honey you get in supermarkets was as good as it gets... nope that's basically just purified syrup. Real honey has so many more flavours to it, and it varies depending on the type of flowers they feed on and the time of year. Find some local beekeepers and try their honey.
leobg 4y ago
Just to confirm: You did not apply that honey topically. You ate it. Right?
- tomcam 4y ago
  No, a suppository
- oblib 4y ago
  I ate the raw honey :D

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BiteCode_dev 4y ago

Same story but with propolis.

teaker 4y ago

Going to the doctor is a leading cause of death? I'd love to see the literature backing that claim up. Guess we all better cancel those annual checkups!

adamiscool8 4y ago
The figure has been disputed [0] but it originates from an analysis done by a John Hopkins University doctor published in the BMJ [1][2]: > We define death due to medical error as death due to 1) an error in judgment, skill, or coordination of care, 2) a diagnostic error, 3) a system defect resulting in death or a failure to rescue a patient from death, or 4) a preventable adverse event. The prevalence of death due to medical error leading to patient deaths has been established in the literature. From studies that analyzed documented health records, we calculated a pooled incidence rate of 251,454 deaths per year. > (1) If we project this quantity into the total number of deaths in the year 2013 (2,596,993 deaths), they would account for 9.7% of all deaths in the nation. > (2) This figure far surpasses the current third leading cause of death on the CDC’s most recent rank order. Moreover, the 251,454 estimate we derived from the literature is an underestimate because the studies conducted did not include outpatient deaths or deaths at home due to a medical error. [0] https://www.statnews.com/2016/05/09/medical-errors-deaths-bmj/ https://www.statnews.com/2016/05/09/medical-errors-deaths-bm... [1] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822345-Hopkins-CDC-letter.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822345-Hopkins-CDC-... [2] https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139 https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139

thethirdone 4y ago

From Mayo clinic: > Bursitis generally gets better on its own. [0] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bursitis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353247 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bursitis/diag...

oblib 4y ago
Well, as I said, I had it for around six months (or more) and it was getting worse the entire time, and after just a couple weeks of taking the raw honey it was gone. Same with my neighbor. So it was not, and did not, get better on its own. You can ignore what I've shared here if you want, or you can choose to learn something from it. I am very grateful for the person who told me about.

fy20 4y ago

If you haven't had real honey, I'd recommend you try and find some. I'm from the UK and thought the more 'luxury' honey you get in supermarkets was as good as it gets... nope that's basically just purified syrup. Real honey has so many more flavours to it, and it varies depending on the type of flowers they feed on and the time of year. Find some local beekeepers and try their honey.

leobg 4y ago

Just to confirm: You did not apply that honey topically. You ate it. Right?

tomcam 4y ago
No, a suppository
oblib 4y ago
I ate the raw honey :D