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Give it time. Twitter has been miss managed for years, it needs a shake up and its going to take time for the peaces to fall in to place. For all the people wh

Give it time. Twitter has been miss managed for years, it needs a shake up and its going to take time for the peaces to fall in to place. For all the people who say Elon is out of his depth, remember all the people who said he was out of his depths when making a car company, or trying to go to space. Many fortunes have been lost betting against him. Will he succeed? I have no idea, but I would not bet against him in the long run.

noja 4y ago
*self-driving car company. He hasn't delivered on that yet.
- peter-m80 4y ago
  And still not in mars
- quelsolaar 4y ago
  No, you see engineering takes time. Getting people in to orbit took 15 years, it took at least 10 to get mass production of electric cars up and running. All those where late but he did it.
  - alphabettsy 4y ago
    My opinion is that engineering problems are easier to solve than social problems. Even easier when you have billons to throw at them. Much of what Musk has gotten himself into with Twitter are in the realm of social problems. For all his positive qualities, he strikes me as having low emotional intelligence. We’ll see what happens.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    No, people he hired did it. That’s like… all the difference.
defrost 4y ago
That cave-sub was well out of depth, and portage, and ability to navigate tight turns. I'm pretty sure Elon put more thought into that than his buy twitter impulse.
- shagie 4y ago
  https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1514698036760530945 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1514698036760530945 Note that the price was $50.00 + 420¢ ... and a poll. He was memeing and gets side eyes from the SEC when he starts talking about stock prices.
beardyw 4y ago
I was feeling sorry for those folks who lost their jobs, but then I thought - Elon's ok.
- sshine 4y ago
  Worker bees can be replaced. Queens define the hive.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    Elon is at most a drama queen.
kaba0 4y ago
Well, he is so out of depth regarding engineering a car/rockets that the only thing he can possibly do is to hire some smart guys who work for him. He literally only has a single patent for tesla, a goddamn door handle. (Oh, also, they are feeding on government subsidies) Twitter is a much different category where you “only” have to manage people, there is no one stopping his narcissistic personality from doing harm and here is the result. Why do you give him the benefit of doubt? It could have easily been a CEO-swap without any worry from the outside. But he posted controversial shit instantly, made up a ridiculously stupid paid-verification which removed the trust from accounts, fired plenty of its talent base wrongfully! having to rehire many of them at presumably insane costs, while also don’t forget about severance. He is just terribly incompetent at his job, if that is anything more than being an ATM machine.
- quelsolaar 4y ago
  So if all he did was hire some people smart people. Why havent ever other person with a bank account started a sucsessful car/rocket company? The opotunities he has had has been open to a lot of people. Besos has a lot of money and smart people but that doesnt seem to be enough to go to orbit.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    I don’t know, who started a car/rocket company in question? Because they were both bought by Elon after the fact, including the “founding” title (because, narcissism/selling this image of successful CEO)
    - quelsolaar 4y ago
      You are right. Elon didnt file the incorporation papers, he only took it from a grarage startup to the worlds most valuable car maker. Clearly the founder who never shiped a car is is the one who deserves credit, not Elon.
      - kaba0 4y ago
Comevius 4y ago
He is constantly out of his depth, just got lucky with the government subsidies and the right people at the right time, like Gwynne Shotwell. What even he is doing with Twitter at a time when Volkswagen and the rest of the auto industry is easting Tesla's lunch. Most CEO's are practically invisible, busy managing their company, this man has multiple companies and yet he keeps posting meme pictures all day long.
1letterunixname 4y ago
Wishful thinking. There's a difference between a planned and deliberate reorganization, and injecting infinite chaos. Chaos and stress don't produce better results for knowledge work; it just makes the most qualified people leave and invites horrible MSPs like TCS and Taos to come in and keep the crap barely working.
- 411111111111111 4y ago
  To be fair, Twitters user engagement has probably skyrocketed with all these controversies. It’s probably doing better than ever before by internal statistics. I am pretty sure all our armchair speculations are pretty pointless and we’ll have to see how it’ll play out over the next months/years
  - kaba0 4y ago
    I mean, that’t pretty much just catastrophe-tourism at this point. 8 dollars won’t save Twitter, and advertisers are pulling out en mass and they won’t come back because it is pretty worthless to pay for ads if they are indistinguishable from the funny joke accounts’ content. And I know that was just discontinued, but I guess it’s too late.
someNameIG 4y ago
> For all the people who say Elon is out of his depth He recently tweeted "did it 4 da lulz" then deleted it
dmarchand90 4y ago
I've really liked elon for a long time but I've lost my last bit of respect for him when he bought twitter. Tesla and SpaceX are handling the biggest problems of our age. So why is elon wasting his time running this chatter- factory

noja 4y ago

*self-driving car company. He hasn't delivered on that yet.

peter-m80 4y ago
And still not in mars
quelsolaar 4y ago
No, you see engineering takes time. Getting people in to orbit took 15 years, it took at least 10 to get mass production of electric cars up and running. All those where late but he did it.
- alphabettsy 4y ago
  My opinion is that engineering problems are easier to solve than social problems. Even easier when you have billons to throw at them. Much of what Musk has gotten himself into with Twitter are in the realm of social problems. For all his positive qualities, he strikes me as having low emotional intelligence. We’ll see what happens.
- kaba0 4y ago
  No, people he hired did it. That’s like… all the difference.

defrost 4y ago

That cave-sub was well out of depth, and portage, and ability to navigate tight turns. I'm pretty sure Elon put more thought into that than his buy twitter impulse.

shagie 4y ago
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1514698036760530945 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1514698036760530945 Note that the price was $50.00 + 420¢ ... and a poll. He was memeing and gets side eyes from the SEC when he starts talking about stock prices.

beardyw 4y ago

I was feeling sorry for those folks who lost their jobs, but then I thought - Elon's ok.

sshine 4y ago
Worker bees can be replaced. Queens define the hive.
- kaba0 4y ago
  Elon is at most a drama queen.

kaba0 4y ago

Well, he is so out of depth regarding engineering a car/rockets that the only thing he can possibly do is to hire some smart guys who work for him. He literally only has a single patent for tesla, a goddamn door handle. (Oh, also, they are feeding on government subsidies) Twitter is a much different category where you “only” have to manage people, there is no one stopping his narcissistic personality from doing harm and here is the result. Why do you give him the benefit of doubt? It could have easily been a CEO-swap without any worry from the outside. But he posted controversial shit instantly, made up a ridiculously stupid paid-verification which removed the trust from accounts, fired plenty of its talent base wrongfully! having to rehire many of them at presumably insane costs, while also don’t forget about severance. He is just terribly incompetent at his job, if that is anything more than being an ATM machine.

quelsolaar 4y ago
So if all he did was hire some people smart people. Why havent ever other person with a bank account started a sucsessful car/rocket company? The opotunities he has had has been open to a lot of people. Besos has a lot of money and smart people but that doesnt seem to be enough to go to orbit.
- kaba0 4y ago
  I don’t know, who started a car/rocket company in question? Because they were both bought by Elon after the fact, including the “founding” title (because, narcissism/selling this image of successful CEO)
  - quelsolaar 4y ago
    You are right. Elon didnt file the incorporation papers, he only took it from a grarage startup to the worlds most valuable car maker. Clearly the founder who never shiped a car is is the one who deserves credit, not Elon.
    - kaba0 4y ago

Comevius 4y ago

He is constantly out of his depth, just got lucky with the government subsidies and the right people at the right time, like Gwynne Shotwell. What even he is doing with Twitter at a time when Volkswagen and the rest of the auto industry is easting Tesla's lunch. Most CEO's are practically invisible, busy managing their company, this man has multiple companies and yet he keeps posting meme pictures all day long.

1letterunixname 4y ago

Wishful thinking. There's a difference between a planned and deliberate reorganization, and injecting infinite chaos. Chaos and stress don't produce better results for knowledge work; it just makes the most qualified people leave and invites horrible MSPs like TCS and Taos to come in and keep the crap barely working.

411111111111111 4y ago
To be fair, Twitters user engagement has probably skyrocketed with all these controversies. It’s probably doing better than ever before by internal statistics. I am pretty sure all our armchair speculations are pretty pointless and we’ll have to see how it’ll play out over the next months/years
- kaba0 4y ago
  I mean, that’t pretty much just catastrophe-tourism at this point. 8 dollars won’t save Twitter, and advertisers are pulling out en mass and they won’t come back because it is pretty worthless to pay for ads if they are indistinguishable from the funny joke accounts’ content. And I know that was just discontinued, but I guess it’s too late.

someNameIG 4y ago

> For all the people who say Elon is out of his depth He recently tweeted "did it 4 da lulz" then deleted it

dmarchand90 4y ago

I've really liked elon for a long time but I've lost my last bit of respect for him when he bought twitter. Tesla and SpaceX are handling the biggest problems of our age. So why is elon wasting his time running this chatter- factory