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ooh this looks interesting. im so dependent on gmail its a little scary. whats the best way to host ones own email nowadays? (not moving off gmail anytime soon,

by breck 4y ago

ooh this looks interesting. im so dependent on gmail its a little scary. whats the best way to host ones own email nowadays? (not moving off gmail anytime soon, but maybe for some less important accounts)

capableweb 4y ago
Guess I'm plugging Migadu again! (https://www.migadu.com/ https://www.migadu.com/) (not related to them, just a satisfied user) From a previous comment of mine: > Migadu is another awesome email solution. For my family and myself, we're on the "Micro" plan which works out to be 1.5 USD per month (but paid yearly). For smaller organizations and projects, we're on the "Mini" plan which is 9 USD per month. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33545326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33545326 Also another cool thing about Migadu: > They also have a page about their pros/cons: https://www.migadu.com/procon/ https://www.migadu.com/procon/ [...] one of the more honest pieces of company writing out there https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33546076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33546076
- zephyr9 4y ago
  I'll add my provider of choice, Purelymail. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27707857 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27707857
- everybodyknows 4y ago
  Interesting, but my quick search of the Migadu site turned up nothing about support for "tags", formally "keywords" as stored in the Flags Message Attribute of IMAP: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3501#section-2.3.2 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3501#section-2.3.2 See discussion elsewhere in the post for difficulties around tags with Fastmail and other providers.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    Any email provider would be short of useless without supporting flags from IMAP, as that's what email clients use to see if an email has been read or not, if I'm not mistaken. AFAIK, Migadu supports most if not everything from IMAP. I'm using tags via Thunderbird and have no issues syncing it between multiple computers and Migadu.
    - everybodyknows 4y ago
      From the linked RFC: > There are two types of flags in IMAP4rev1 ... Read or not-read is recorded in '\Seen', a system flag. My question pertains to the other kind of flag, a keyword. > Keywords do not begin with "\". Servers MAY permit the client to define new keywords in the mailbox ...
flippinburgers 4y ago
Consider creating a server that gmail forwards mail to. If your server goes down, it goes down. If gmail locks you out of your account, you should be able to continue to receive your important emails. There are docker solutions for running a full stack that can receive and send. https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver#included-services https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver#inclu... or single services like https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy that appear to do everything more simply.
- breck 4y ago
  This is a good idea. Thanks!
  - flippinburgers 4y ago
    Glad to help!

by breck 4y ago

capableweb 4y ago

Guess I'm plugging Migadu again! (https://www.migadu.com/ https://www.migadu.com/) (not related to them, just a satisfied user) From a previous comment of mine: > Migadu is another awesome email solution. For my family and myself, we're on the "Micro" plan which works out to be 1.5 USD per month (but paid yearly). For smaller organizations and projects, we're on the "Mini" plan which is 9 USD per month. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33545326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33545326 Also another cool thing about Migadu: > They also have a page about their pros/cons: https://www.migadu.com/procon/ https://www.migadu.com/procon/ [...] one of the more honest pieces of company writing out there https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33546076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33546076

zephyr9 4y ago
I'll add my provider of choice, Purelymail. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27707857 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27707857
everybodyknows 4y ago
Interesting, but my quick search of the Migadu site turned up nothing about support for "tags", formally "keywords" as stored in the Flags Message Attribute of IMAP: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3501#section-2.3.2 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3501#section-2.3.2 See discussion elsewhere in the post for difficulties around tags with Fastmail and other providers.
- capableweb 4y ago
  Any email provider would be short of useless without supporting flags from IMAP, as that's what email clients use to see if an email has been read or not, if I'm not mistaken. AFAIK, Migadu supports most if not everything from IMAP. I'm using tags via Thunderbird and have no issues syncing it between multiple computers and Migadu.
  - everybodyknows 4y ago
    From the linked RFC: > There are two types of flags in IMAP4rev1 ... Read or not-read is recorded in '\Seen', a system flag. My question pertains to the other kind of flag, a keyword. > Keywords do not begin with "\". Servers MAY permit the client to define new keywords in the mailbox ...

flippinburgers 4y ago

Consider creating a server that gmail forwards mail to. If your server goes down, it goes down. If gmail locks you out of your account, you should be able to continue to receive your important emails. There are docker solutions for running a full stack that can receive and send. https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver#included-services https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver#inclu... or single services like https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy that appear to do everything more simply.

breck 4y ago
This is a good idea. Thanks!
- flippinburgers 4y ago
  Glad to help!