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> Any good reasons why we should reject this proposal? No idea here. The 1 MW charging claim feels weird since faster charging was definitely a touted benefit

> Any good reasons why we should reject this proposal? No idea here. The 1 MW charging claim feels weird since faster charging was definitely a touted benefit of CCS in the recent past. I'm not sure if something changed. To me, it doesn't really matter one way or another. The CCS connector is bulky, but so is a gas station nozzle and I've never had a problem using one of those. Plus you'll use the CCS connector less often since most charging is done at home with a connector comparable to the NACS one. I'd probably lean towards CCS because it's effectively the same as international standards, it's already the standard, and separating the AC and DC pins probably simplifies engineering on the car side but I don't actually care as long as we all use one connector with an open spec.

kortilla 4y ago
>it's already the standard, Not sure how you’re defining “standard” but given that Tesla has the major majority here, its connector is the standard most people are familiar with. If you just mean, it’s something not proprietary that other manufacturers agreed on, then sure.
- kgermino 4y ago
  I mean it's something not proprietary that _every_ other manufacturer and _the federal government_ agreed on. You can't reasonably say that e.g. USB is a standard and CCS is not
  - kortilla 4y ago
    But that’s an empty gesture when the size is so irrelevant. >You can't reasonably say that e.g. USB is a standard and CCS is not CCS is “a standard” but Tesla is “the standard” from a consumer perspective. The same thing happened with apple lightning early on. It was far better and dominated micro usb. If they had opened it early during usb-c it would have just killed usb-c and been the new standard.
chroma 4y ago
North America's CCS[1] isn't compatible with Europe's CCS[2]. They're physically different connectors. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:J1772_(CCS1).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:J1772_(CCS1).svg 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IEC_62196_Type_2_(M,_DC,_CCS_Combo_2).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IEC_62196_Type_2_(M,_DC,_...

kortilla 4y ago

>it's already the standard, Not sure how you’re defining “standard” but given that Tesla has the major majority here, its connector is the standard most people are familiar with. If you just mean, it’s something not proprietary that other manufacturers agreed on, then sure.

kgermino 4y ago
I mean it's something not proprietary that _every_ other manufacturer and _the federal government_ agreed on. You can't reasonably say that e.g. USB is a standard and CCS is not
- kortilla 4y ago
  But that’s an empty gesture when the size is so irrelevant. >You can't reasonably say that e.g. USB is a standard and CCS is not CCS is “a standard” but Tesla is “the standard” from a consumer perspective. The same thing happened with apple lightning early on. It was far better and dominated micro usb. If they had opened it early during usb-c it would have just killed usb-c and been the new standard.

chroma 4y ago

North America's CCS[1] isn't compatible with Europe's CCS[2]. They're physically different connectors. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:J1772_(CCS1).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:J1772_(CCS1).svg 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IEC_62196_Type_2_(M,_DC,_CCS_Combo_2).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IEC_62196_Type_2_(M,_DC,_...