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Tesla said in May that it would be adding CCS adapters to its Supercharger stations, already used in Europe: https://electrek.co/2022/05/10/tesla-add-ccs-connec

Tesla said in May that it would be adding CCS adapters to its Supercharger stations, already used in Europe: https://electrek.co/2022/05/10/tesla-add-ccs-connectors-supercharger-stations-us-elon-musk/ https://electrek.co/2022/05/10/tesla-add-ccs-connectors-supe... Now they're trying to declare their own charger as a "standard", after launching a $250 adapter in September to use the actual standard plug? Also, obligatory Technology Connections video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZOuz_laH9I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZOuz_laH9I

_joel 4y ago
The T.C. video is very thorough and worth a watch for all EV related shennanigans.
- darknavi 4y ago
  That's most T.C. videos I've seen. Often niche topics but I sat* through (and enjoyed) 20 minutes of why an obscure can opener is superior than the mainstream ones.
  - masklinn 4y ago
    Also why the best toaster was created in the 50s, how petrol lamps work, the wild story of video on discs, and dumb US. automotive standards (or less dumb ones). Followed by a speed run through the entire history of analog photography. It’s wild not just how varied Alex’s interests are, but how he’ll find interest in the most mundane subjects (christmas lamps) and how well and thoroughly he’s able to present them.
    - darknavi 4y ago
      A bit more electrics based but Big Clive also tears down the most random pieces of technology. It's quite fun to watch him take a dollar store toy apart and see how it ticks.
      - _joel 4y ago
        You guys are pretty much listing my subs. Adrian's Digital Basement, 8-bit guy, Curious Marc, LGR, Usagi Electric and Techmoan also feature.
  - bsimpson 4y ago
    Can you please share a link - who/what is TC?
    - _joel 4y ago
      Technology Connections channel on youtube
  - plorkyeran 4y ago
    So far he's mostly been an exception to Gell-Mann Amnesia, too. The videos I've seen from him that are on subjects which I'm knowledgable about haven't been perfect, but the inaccuracies I've noticed have been nitpicks, not major problems. That combined with his willingness to do further research and make an update video when people object to something he said makes me a lot more willing to trust him on the subjects I know nothing about.
wilg 4y ago
I think it's a good strategy given how people are standardizing on CCS1 in NA. They're embracing CCS1 to a large degree, offering adapters for plugging your car into a CCS charger and allowing CCS cars to charge at Superchargers. But the connector is definitely better, so they may as well open it up in the hopes that people adopt the nicer plug and then they won't have to change it after all. Basically no reason not to given how things are going with CCS1. I certainly think from a usability perspective it would be preferable if "NACS" was the winner. CCS is not a great design.
- maxsilver 4y ago
  > But the (Tesla) connector is definitely better, I'm not convinced of that. Tesla's connector is thinner and lighter yes absolutely. But Tesla is also weaker and less reliable \ less fault tolerant than standard EV charger cables (See the dreaded EP307 / lock error, something that can't even happen with a normal EV CCS charger) I definitely think it's preferable for CCS win, as it's the safest, most durable, most compatible, while also being the lowest cost option.
  - gpt5 4y ago
    >it's preferable for CCS win, as it's the safest, most durable, most compatible, while also being the lowest cost option. Can you share a link to back these claims?
  - gibolt 4y ago
    Not sure where any of these suggestions come from. Superchargers have the highest utilization and uptime in the industry. Thinner means more accessible/easier to use. CCS is wholly unreliable if it is even slightly at the wrong angle, which is common due to the bulk of the plug and cable.
  - rnk 4y ago
    The tesla plug has a decade of successful heavy use behind it, and it doesn't have a history of failing despite being the most used ev charging system and plug in the world (comparing to the ccs standards around the us and the world). You'll need to provide some references to point to tesla problems. On the other hand I have a brand new us ccs car and every time I go to a public charger it's an open question whether it will work (and yes there are a variety of problems). CCS charging is less reliable, it's a common thing for people to complain about ccs charging problems. With due respect, I think you are wrong.

_joel 4y ago

The T.C. video is very thorough and worth a watch for all EV related shennanigans.

darknavi 4y ago
That's most T.C. videos I've seen. Often niche topics but I sat* through (and enjoyed) 20 minutes of why an obscure can opener is superior than the mainstream ones.
- masklinn 4y ago
  Also why the best toaster was created in the 50s, how petrol lamps work, the wild story of video on discs, and dumb US. automotive standards (or less dumb ones). Followed by a speed run through the entire history of analog photography. It’s wild not just how varied Alex’s interests are, but how he’ll find interest in the most mundane subjects (christmas lamps) and how well and thoroughly he’s able to present them.
  - darknavi 4y ago
    A bit more electrics based but Big Clive also tears down the most random pieces of technology. It's quite fun to watch him take a dollar store toy apart and see how it ticks.
    - _joel 4y ago
      You guys are pretty much listing my subs. Adrian's Digital Basement, 8-bit guy, Curious Marc, LGR, Usagi Electric and Techmoan also feature.
- bsimpson 4y ago
  Can you please share a link - who/what is TC?
  - _joel 4y ago
    Technology Connections channel on youtube
- plorkyeran 4y ago
  So far he's mostly been an exception to Gell-Mann Amnesia, too. The videos I've seen from him that are on subjects which I'm knowledgable about haven't been perfect, but the inaccuracies I've noticed have been nitpicks, not major problems. That combined with his willingness to do further research and make an update video when people object to something he said makes me a lot more willing to trust him on the subjects I know nothing about.

wilg 4y ago

I think it's a good strategy given how people are standardizing on CCS1 in NA. They're embracing CCS1 to a large degree, offering adapters for plugging your car into a CCS charger and allowing CCS cars to charge at Superchargers. But the connector is definitely better, so they may as well open it up in the hopes that people adopt the nicer plug and then they won't have to change it after all. Basically no reason not to given how things are going with CCS1. I certainly think from a usability perspective it would be preferable if "NACS" was the winner. CCS is not a great design.

maxsilver 4y ago
> But the (Tesla) connector is definitely better, I'm not convinced of that. Tesla's connector is thinner and lighter yes absolutely. But Tesla is also weaker and less reliable \ less fault tolerant than standard EV charger cables (See the dreaded EP307 / lock error, something that can't even happen with a normal EV CCS charger) I definitely think it's preferable for CCS win, as it's the safest, most durable, most compatible, while also being the lowest cost option.
- gpt5 4y ago
  >it's preferable for CCS win, as it's the safest, most durable, most compatible, while also being the lowest cost option. Can you share a link to back these claims?
- gibolt 4y ago
  Not sure where any of these suggestions come from. Superchargers have the highest utilization and uptime in the industry. Thinner means more accessible/easier to use. CCS is wholly unreliable if it is even slightly at the wrong angle, which is common due to the bulk of the plug and cable.
- rnk 4y ago
  The tesla plug has a decade of successful heavy use behind it, and it doesn't have a history of failing despite being the most used ev charging system and plug in the world (comparing to the ccs standards around the us and the world). You'll need to provide some references to point to tesla problems. On the other hand I have a brand new us ccs car and every time I go to a public charger it's an open question whether it will work (and yes there are a variety of problems). CCS charging is less reliable, it's a common thing for people to complain about ccs charging problems. With due respect, I think you are wrong.