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IMO, looking at the state of Siri, I'm not quite sure about that. Siri has always been not as good as alexa or google and has been getting worse over the years

by novok 4y ago

IMO, looking at the state of Siri, I'm not quite sure about that. Siri has always been not as good as alexa or google and has been getting worse over the years with weird ass bit flip bugs interpreting a 'turn off' as a 'turn on' or similar and the rest of the 'smart assistant' stuff throughout the OS usually not being very useful.

ghaff 4y ago
Probably true. I find all of them annoying almost to the point of uselessness though. I generally use them for some specific incantations like setting an alarm but mostly don’t even try to think of them as any sort of true voice assistants.
tinus_hn 4y ago
Siri launched in 2011 with a live demo of untrained speech recognition which was unheard of at the time. Alexa launched in 2014 and Google Assistant in 2016. Siri has not always been ‘not as good as Alexa or Google’, it existed way before either of them were released.
- novok 4y ago
  And none of that matters? As a product to do basic things like 'turn off lights' and 'whats the temperature' and such it fails horribly, while alexa and co at least are very reliable on the basics.
  - tinus_hn 4y ago
    You can argue all you want that Google and Alexa have surpassed Siri but the thread is about Apple not launching poor products. Siri wasn’t a poor product, surpassed by Alexa and Google, at launch because they didn’t exist when Siri launched.
- rhaway84773 4y ago
  Siri was a lot better when it was being run by a tiny startup as opposed to once Apple started taking control of development isn’t much of a defense of Apple. In fact, the Siri Apple released was significantly gimped compared to the Siri that was available on the App Store before Apple bought it.
eastbound 4y ago
I specifically remember telling Siri “Read my last SMS” and it doesn’t work anymore. “Start the chronometer” (in French) doesn’t work either. I’m at the point where I wonder whether they flagged me as a bad person, on which they make Siri do the opposite of what I ask.

by novok 4y ago

ghaff 4y ago

Probably true. I find all of them annoying almost to the point of uselessness though. I generally use them for some specific incantations like setting an alarm but mostly don’t even try to think of them as any sort of true voice assistants.

tinus_hn 4y ago

Siri launched in 2011 with a live demo of untrained speech recognition which was unheard of at the time. Alexa launched in 2014 and Google Assistant in 2016. Siri has not always been ‘not as good as Alexa or Google’, it existed way before either of them were released.

novok 4y ago
And none of that matters? As a product to do basic things like 'turn off lights' and 'whats the temperature' and such it fails horribly, while alexa and co at least are very reliable on the basics.
- tinus_hn 4y ago
  You can argue all you want that Google and Alexa have surpassed Siri but the thread is about Apple not launching poor products. Siri wasn’t a poor product, surpassed by Alexa and Google, at launch because they didn’t exist when Siri launched.
rhaway84773 4y ago
Siri was a lot better when it was being run by a tiny startup as opposed to once Apple started taking control of development isn’t much of a defense of Apple. In fact, the Siri Apple released was significantly gimped compared to the Siri that was available on the App Store before Apple bought it.

eastbound 4y ago

I specifically remember telling Siri “Read my last SMS” and it doesn’t work anymore. “Start the chronometer” (in French) doesn’t work either. I’m at the point where I wonder whether they flagged me as a bad person, on which they make Siri do the opposite of what I ask.