>this is sad because youtube is and always has been extremely resistant to public pressure. it doesn’t matter how much people complain, this is going to happen.

>this is sad because youtube is and always has been extremely resistant to public pressure. it doesn’t matter how much people complain, this is going to happen. Well of course they are. YouTube isn't a public utility. And we aren't its customers, we're its product. I think Instagram, youtube, and even a couple of porn sites have realized that they get really good engagement out of their product (users) with shorts and that's why they're doing it. HN folks are not the target demographic, and we're a tiny minority, so they don't care what we think, even if we're justifiably annoyed. I'd love to see a better algorithm on youtube too, but that's not their priority.