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Yeah, it'd be nice if more people read patent claims before passing judgement. I took the obvious practical implementation of this to be a method to guide auto

by roc 15y ago

Yeah, it'd be nice if more people read patent claims before passing judgement. I took the obvious practical implementation of this to be a method to guide autonomous vehicles into a parking lot/structure. The car rolls up to the landing strip, the driver gets out, the car switches to autonomous mode, gets the connection information to the parking management server, asks for and receives a spot assignment and instructions on getting there, etc. GPS and map data are simply insufficient to handle autonomous parking. There are precious few universals in parking laws, customs, lot-flow, etc. And automatic parking is one of the unavoidable expectations of self-driving cars.

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sliverstorm 15y ago
it'd be nice if more people read patent claims before passing judgement Unlikely; that would put a real damper on the amount of righteous vitriol people can muster.
cabalamat 15y ago
> it'd be nice if more people read patent claims before passing judgement. It'd also be nice if patents were written in a language that made them readily understandable. Then more people might read them. I'm sure I'm not the only person who finds them obscure bordering on incomprehensible.
- nitrogen 15y ago
  If you want more people to read patents, you need to make them more understandable (as you say), and get rid of treble damages for potentially accidental infringement of a patent you "should have" been aware of because you were reading patents.
- anigbrowl 15y ago
  'Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler.'
  - po 15y ago
    Make things as vague as possible while still patentable, and no clearer.
    - anigbrowl 15y ago
      I find them easy to read. It's a style imposed by the need to be exhaustively specific. Just keep at it, you get used to it.
fredliu 15y ago
In many cases, it is exactly their intention to write the patent in that obscure way, in order to have more wiggle room, and in most cases it's lawyers who write those patents, not engineers.
danmaz74 15y ago
And automatic parking is one of the unavoidable expectations of self-driving cars. Actually, I would be perfectly content if I only had to park my car, but it drove itself from just outside the source parking lot (or street) and the destination one. And just not having to drive on freeways (a much more controlled environment than usual roads) would be incredibly useful :)

by roc 15y ago

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sliverstorm 15y ago

it'd be nice if more people read patent claims before passing judgement Unlikely; that would put a real damper on the amount of righteous vitriol people can muster.

cabalamat 15y ago

> it'd be nice if more people read patent claims before passing judgement. It'd also be nice if patents were written in a language that made them readily understandable. Then more people might read them. I'm sure I'm not the only person who finds them obscure bordering on incomprehensible.

nitrogen 15y ago
If you want more people to read patents, you need to make them more understandable (as you say), and get rid of treble damages for potentially accidental infringement of a patent you "should have" been aware of because you were reading patents.
anigbrowl 15y ago
'Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler.'
- po 15y ago
  Make things as vague as possible while still patentable, and no clearer.
  - anigbrowl 15y ago
    I find them easy to read. It's a style imposed by the need to be exhaustively specific. Just keep at it, you get used to it.

fredliu 15y ago

In many cases, it is exactly their intention to write the patent in that obscure way, in order to have more wiggle room, and in most cases it's lawyers who write those patents, not engineers.

danmaz74 15y ago

And automatic parking is one of the unavoidable expectations of self-driving cars. Actually, I would be perfectly content if I only had to park my car, but it drove itself from just outside the source parking lot (or street) and the destination one. And just not having to drive on freeways (a much more controlled environment than usual roads) would be incredibly useful :)