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This affects the entire EU. I try to hammer it into people's heads here in NL. Using US-based cloud services if you touch PII is a huge risk as they're all gett
by radicalbyte 4y ago
This affects the entire EU. I try to hammer it into people's heads here in NL. Using US-based cloud services if you touch PII is a huge risk as they're all getting like crazed addicts fighting over their next high PII-high.
- boringg 4y agoIt's the way the EU can protect their own tech industry.
- hyperman1 4y agoWhile this is true, it is too easy. The privacy angle lives in the minds of Europeans, while US people seem to care a lot less.
- boringg 4y agoAgree it is both but it is very palatable in the local population to implement rules to shutout foreign competition. Easy political points.
- kmlx 4y ago> The privacy angle lives in the minds of Europeans without data, it’s hard to make this argument. what we know for sure is that bureaucrats fully support the privacy angle. but from my anecdotal real life experience almost no one cares (another argument that without data cannot be generalised).
- XAMPPRocky 4y agoThe "bureaucrats" are elected officials so if people weren't in favour of it, they would stop electing MEPs that vote in favour of it.
- bmitc 4y agoThat’s a naïve view of how politics and elections work.
- rootusrootus 4y agoWhen has any democracy worked even remotely like that? There are countless issues politicians must take a position on, you won't agree with all of them. So you prioritize. Or you just vote party line, which is by far what most people do.
- radicalbyte 4y agoUS people certainly care about their privacy however there aren't any strong institutions left in the US anymore (outside of the Military) and the political system in the US give a choice between two corporate-owned parties.
- kergonath 4y agoNo need to be overly cynical, the privacy aspects are popular and a good enough reason by themselves to have these regulations.
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- amadeuspagel 4y agoYeah, not letting startups use any kind of US companies is a great way to protect your tech industry. Right now, there's a trend towards hosting on the edge—cloudflare workers, deno deploy, fly.io–european companies can't use any of this. And as far as I know, there are no european alternatives.
- boringg 4y agoI never said it was a smart idea but if you don't understand technology (i.e. majority of politicians/public) it might seem like a great protectionist idea. The simple idea the politicians believe is protect our privacy by forcing big tech companies to change for our benefit -- if they don't our own population will build the technology. Win win in their eyes.
- themitigating 4y agoProtection through indirect tariffs?
- radicalbyte 4y agoThe thing is - it isn't. Where is the EU-based top tier cloud player? One to compete with Google/Microsoft/Amazon? There is a huge EU project which in theory is trying to build those competitors - Gaia-X - but as is typical with such projects the results have been poor. Looks to me like a lot of the money was wasted on "blockchain" scam projects. The thing is - there is real significant potential in the EU for some of the existing large colocation/VPS provides to become just that only the EU's own implementation has failed.
- mafuy 4y agoDisagree. Privacy is a human right. It protects people's mental and economic wellbeing. Further, it can save millions of lives. Or, if you prefer, lack of privacy can lead to millions of deaths.