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> He is reportedly the company's new vice president of engineering. Google has dozens of “VPs of engineering”.

solomatov 4y ago
Companies like Google often have several tiers of VP: VPs, Senior VPs, sometimes even Executive VPs, etc. It means that it's a manager very high in the hierarchy, but due to the company being big enough, there's non trivial amount of people like them among managers. P.S. According to levels.fyi (https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Bloomberg,Amazon&track=Software%20Engineering%20Manager https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Bloomberg,Amazon&trac...) Google has only VPs and SVPs, not EVPs.
- steve1977 4y ago
  > It means that it's a manager very high in the hierarchy It doesn't, because there are so many of them. Looking at this for example: https://www.zippia.com/google-careers-24972/salary/vice-president/ https://www.zippia.com/google-careers-24972/salary/vice-pres... I wouldn't say VP ranks very high at Google.
  - brunoTbear 4y ago
    At least in PM land, director comp starts at $1M/yr, I'm sure VP comp is a multiple of that. The link you've provided is not accurate. Am Google PM.
  - vfturchin 4y ago
    The link is wrong. Most VPs make more than that a month.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
  - ricardou 4y ago
    This is so wildly inaccurate. I know L3s making that much.
  - I_AM_A_SMURF 4y ago
    That's inaccurate. VP is a really high title, most likely your manager's manager is Sundar Pitchai or someone who reports to him. TC is in the millions of dollars for those people.
- advisedwang 4y ago
  Google does has SVPs. E.g. https://www.linkedin.com/in/urs-h%C3%B6lzle-b3168365 https://www.linkedin.com/in/urs-h%C3%B6lzle-b3168365
steve1977 4y ago
- throwaway5959 4y ago
  Brits pronounce router as “rooter”. Maybe they spelled it like they heard it. Not sure.
  - samatman 4y ago
    It's interesting to me that the American dialect pronounces route like rout, but never in the phrase en route, which is common enough that I've seen it frequently spelled "on route" by people who don't know not to.
    - throwaway5959 4y ago
      We (Americans) are a pretty wild bunch. :D
    - bombcar 4y ago
      We steal words from every language, and sometimes we steal the pronunciation, too.
      - giantrobot 4y ago
        We're cunning linguists and proud of it.
- AlbertCory 4y ago
  News flash: media article has embarrassing typos & grammar errors! Film at 11. I don't think anyone proofreads anymore. "rooted" is a word in the dictionary, so it passes the automated checker.
- draw_down 4y ago
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purpleblue 4y ago
When I was at Yahoo, I remember someone famous (either Jeremy Zawodny or Rasmus) running a query and discovering that there was something ridiculous like 20 employees for every VP. Maybe someone else on HN has better details or a better memory than me, but I remember being shocked at how top heavy it was, and it explained a lot of what I saw at Yahoo over the 4+ years I was there.

Companies like Google often have several tiers of VP: VPs, Senior VPs, sometimes even Executive VPs, etc. It means that it's a manager very high in the hierarchy, but due to the company being big enough, there's non trivial amount of people like them among managers. P.S. According to levels.fyi (https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Bloomberg,Amazon&track=Software%20Engineering%20Manager https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Bloomberg,Amazon&trac...) Google has only VPs and SVPs, not EVPs.

steve1977 4y ago
> It means that it's a manager very high in the hierarchy It doesn't, because there are so many of them. Looking at this for example: https://www.zippia.com/google-careers-24972/salary/vice-president/ https://www.zippia.com/google-careers-24972/salary/vice-pres... I wouldn't say VP ranks very high at Google.
- brunoTbear 4y ago
  At least in PM land, director comp starts at $1M/yr, I'm sure VP comp is a multiple of that. The link you've provided is not accurate. Am Google PM.
- vfturchin 4y ago
  The link is wrong. Most VPs make more than that a month.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- ricardou 4y ago
  This is so wildly inaccurate. I know L3s making that much.
- I_AM_A_SMURF 4y ago
  That's inaccurate. VP is a really high title, most likely your manager's manager is Sundar Pitchai or someone who reports to him. TC is in the millions of dollars for those people.
advisedwang 4y ago
Google does has SVPs. E.g. https://www.linkedin.com/in/urs-h%C3%B6lzle-b3168365 https://www.linkedin.com/in/urs-h%C3%B6lzle-b3168365

steve1977 4y ago

throwaway5959 4y ago
Brits pronounce router as “rooter”. Maybe they spelled it like they heard it. Not sure.
- samatman 4y ago
  It's interesting to me that the American dialect pronounces route like rout, but never in the phrase en route, which is common enough that I've seen it frequently spelled "on route" by people who don't know not to.
  - throwaway5959 4y ago
    We (Americans) are a pretty wild bunch. :D
  - bombcar 4y ago
    We steal words from every language, and sometimes we steal the pronunciation, too.
    - giantrobot 4y ago
      We're cunning linguists and proud of it.
AlbertCory 4y ago
News flash: media article has embarrassing typos & grammar errors! Film at 11. I don't think anyone proofreads anymore. "rooted" is a word in the dictionary, so it passes the automated checker.
draw_down 4y ago
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purpleblue 4y ago

When I was at Yahoo, I remember someone famous (either Jeremy Zawodny or Rasmus) running a query and discovering that there was something ridiculous like 20 employees for every VP. Maybe someone else on HN has better details or a better memory than me, but I remember being shocked at how top heavy it was, and it explained a lot of what I saw at Yahoo over the 4+ years I was there.