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I'm not your pal, buddy. > Your caricature is just silly. Funny, I feel the same way about yours. Sure, everyone in the world is driving SUVs, flying private

I'm not your pal, buddy. > Your caricature is just silly. Funny, I feel the same way about yours. Sure, everyone in the world is driving SUVs, flying private jets, and building nuclear reactors in their backyard. Let's stop people from consuming - force everyone to be vegan and eat the bugs! People consuming are the problem - not the military-industrial complex spending enormous amounts of energy on things that have nothing to do with consumption and spends an order of magnitude more energy than all human consumption combined!

andrepd 4y ago
Ahaha, good old "if you don't drive a gas guzzler you're a vegan poof". Auto marketing departments are really worth their salt. >building nuclear reactors in their backyard If only!
- bheadmaster 4y ago
  > Ahaha, good old "if you don't drive a gas guzzler you're a vegan poof". Auto marketing departments are really worth their salt. Yeah, good old "ignore the argument and insult the argumenter" ad hominem style of arguing - very useful for fueling your self-righteousness and "I'm right, you're wrong" style of thinking. Good pointless talk! Hope to have one again soon.
  - andrepd 4y ago
    It's obvious that there is plenty of unsustainable activity going on today; I've given three concrete examples. This is reality: it is simply not long term sustainable to go on living with such waste as we do even today, let alone if everybody consumed like an American (many × over the world average, depending on if you look at energy, emissions, resources). So it's obvious that we both can and need to become more efficient: reduce waste, use more renewable energy, build lasting products instead of single-use, etc. Your answer to this is "the only way to reduce resource use is population culling, the global elite wants to enact reproductive control" x)) But one thing we agree with, this conversation is utterly pointless!

andrepd 4y ago

Ahaha, good old "if you don't drive a gas guzzler you're a vegan poof". Auto marketing departments are really worth their salt. >building nuclear reactors in their backyard If only!

bheadmaster 4y ago
> Ahaha, good old "if you don't drive a gas guzzler you're a vegan poof". Auto marketing departments are really worth their salt. Yeah, good old "ignore the argument and insult the argumenter" ad hominem style of arguing - very useful for fueling your self-righteousness and "I'm right, you're wrong" style of thinking. Good pointless talk! Hope to have one again soon.
- andrepd 4y ago
  It's obvious that there is plenty of unsustainable activity going on today; I've given three concrete examples. This is reality: it is simply not long term sustainable to go on living with such waste as we do even today, let alone if everybody consumed like an American (many × over the world average, depending on if you look at energy, emissions, resources). So it's obvious that we both can and need to become more efficient: reduce waste, use more renewable energy, build lasting products instead of single-use, etc. Your answer to this is "the only way to reduce resource use is population culling, the global elite wants to enact reproductive control" x)) But one thing we agree with, this conversation is utterly pointless!