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I’ve got a horrid feeling you’re waiting for this precise question, but any source on degrowth being the aim of a “lot” of climate activists to the extent that

I’ve got a horrid feeling you’re waiting for this precise question, but any source on degrowth being the aim of a “lot” of climate activists to the extent that it’s vaguely mainstream (as opposed to just being a minor current, which I’m aware exists)

practice9 4y ago
It doesn’t help that most visible activists don’t have clear and measurable goals
- esteth 4y ago
  I don’t know about that: the major activist groups in the uk which get news attention are just stop oil, who want the government to stop issuing new oil and gas licenses, and insulate Britain, who want the government to install insulation in all state-owned housing. Those are both concrete, measurable goals
- collyw 4y ago
  How dare you! Listen to the scientists! No not those scientists!
  - philosopher1234 4y ago
    All those earth lovers are so lame. I’ll burn as much oil as I want
- zztop44 4y ago
  I mean I feel like the most visible “activists” are in egypt right now clearly calling for the measurable goal of keeping warming under 1.5 degrees?
leethargo 4y ago
At least degrowth is mentioned (a lot) in the latest IPCC report: https://timotheeparrique.com/degrowth-in-the-ipcc-ar6-wgiii/ https://timotheeparrique.com/degrowth-in-the-ipcc-ar6-wgiii/
MontyCarloHall 4y ago
Environmentalist groups often oppose construction of solar and wind farms [0]. The Sunrise Movement has explicitly advocated for degrowth policies (e.g. [1], with some in the movement claiming it does not go far enough [2]). [0] https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/americas-top-environmental-groups https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/americas-top-environmental... [1] https://twitter.com/sunrisemvmt/status/1328770319843287041?lang=en https://twitter.com/sunrisemvmt/status/1328770319843287041?l... [2] https://medium.com/@xxcapsxx1964/to-the-sunrise-movement-fc6879e35538 https://medium.com/@xxcapsxx1964/to-the-sunrise-movement-fc6...
- zztop44 4y ago
  [0] is classic NIMBYism not degrowth as an aim (I hope you can acknowledge those are different things). [1] is a tweet just saying that capitalism won’t solve the climate crisis, which I hope you can also distinguish from advocating degrowth as an objective (capitalism and economic growth are not synonymous). And [2] is an individual volunteer posting something to the public internet under their own initiative, which (absolutely no disrespect to them) does not make the mainstream of the climate movement.

practice9 4y ago

It doesn’t help that most visible activists don’t have clear and measurable goals

esteth 4y ago
I don’t know about that: the major activist groups in the uk which get news attention are just stop oil, who want the government to stop issuing new oil and gas licenses, and insulate Britain, who want the government to install insulation in all state-owned housing. Those are both concrete, measurable goals
collyw 4y ago
How dare you! Listen to the scientists! No not those scientists!
- philosopher1234 4y ago
  All those earth lovers are so lame. I’ll burn as much oil as I want
zztop44 4y ago
I mean I feel like the most visible “activists” are in egypt right now clearly calling for the measurable goal of keeping warming under 1.5 degrees?

leethargo 4y ago

At least degrowth is mentioned (a lot) in the latest IPCC report: https://timotheeparrique.com/degrowth-in-the-ipcc-ar6-wgiii/ https://timotheeparrique.com/degrowth-in-the-ipcc-ar6-wgiii/

MontyCarloHall 4y ago

Environmentalist groups often oppose construction of solar and wind farms [0]. The Sunrise Movement has explicitly advocated for degrowth policies (e.g. [1], with some in the movement claiming it does not go far enough [2]). [0] https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/americas-top-environmental-groups https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/americas-top-environmental... [1] https://twitter.com/sunrisemvmt/status/1328770319843287041?lang=en https://twitter.com/sunrisemvmt/status/1328770319843287041?l... [2] https://medium.com/@xxcapsxx1964/to-the-sunrise-movement-fc6879e35538 https://medium.com/@xxcapsxx1964/to-the-sunrise-movement-fc6...

zztop44 4y ago
[0] is classic NIMBYism not degrowth as an aim (I hope you can acknowledge those are different things). [1] is a tweet just saying that capitalism won’t solve the climate crisis, which I hope you can also distinguish from advocating degrowth as an objective (capitalism and economic growth are not synonymous). And [2] is an individual volunteer posting something to the public internet under their own initiative, which (absolutely no disrespect to them) does not make the mainstream of the climate movement.