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Please start an open source project for such an extension and count me in. I'm so aggravated by YT's idiotic decision because I agree 100% with the usage patte

by kleiba 4y ago

Please start an open source project for such an extension and count me in. I'm so aggravated by YT's idiotic decision because I agree 100% with the usage pattern you describe. Over the years, that is exactly what I've done many, many times. Sure, I also watch random videos here and there from channels I never ever come back to. But if I ever want to look at the entirety of someone's uploaded videos and sort them by anything at all, it's always by "oldest first". The remaining two options are useful, too, for sure. But I've never actively sorted anything by popularity manually. Always "oldest first".

3np 4y ago
These two, together: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect Sounds like the changes you want should be possible to add to NewPipe.
- capableweb 4y ago
  https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect is a bit over-zealous. Love the idea, but I still want to be able to browse the homepages of the sites. After installing the addon and visiting just https://youtube.com https://youtube.com I get redirected to https://inv.vern.cc/ https://inv.vern.cc/ that just displays "Our main server's ISP is having issues, even router resets haven't fixed it. We apologize for this long downtime". Visiting https://twitter.com https://twitter.com I get redirected to https://twt.funami.tech/ https://twt.funami.tech/ which displays "502 Bad Gateway" Not a great experience to be honest. Still, love the idea, but execution is poor at best.
cube00 4y ago
Don't even bother, you only have to look at how often youtube-dl has to change to keep up with Google's infinite breaking UI changes. There's so many other open source projects that would benefit from your efforts that don't feed the Google machine.
- selfhoster11 4y ago
  You could likely build something on top of youtube-dl to output a chronological list of videos. Instead of downloading, dump metadata for each video and then sort locally.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/blob/develop/support/doc/tools.md#peertube-import-videosjs https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/blob/develop/support/...
  - Macuyiko 4y ago
    yt-dlp --flat-playlist --extractor-args youtubetab:approximate_date "https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling" --print "%(upload_date)s %(id)s" 1> out.txt && sort out.txt Takes longer if you want precise dates: yt-dlp --simulate "https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling" --print "%(upload_date)s %(id)s" 1> out.txt && sort out.txt
TT-392 4y ago
I'd just recommend using newpipe, piped, or invidious, although, I guess they don't have sort by oldest, just by newest
- throwaway744678 4y ago
  Eh, turn your screen upside down!
benjaminwootton 4y ago
Exactly the same here. I mainly use YouTube for education and the discovery is awful. That said, being able to sort comments chronologically here on HN would be nice too, so people in glass houses…
- BiteCode_dev 4y ago
  In all big platforms, navigation beyond dumb consumption is aweful. Twitter, Facebook, Insta: try finding back a tweet of yours from last month, or explore the early posting of Guido van Rossum.
- capableweb 4y ago
  > That said, being able to sort comments chronologically here on HN would be nice too, so people in glass houses… This is basically the main reason I wrote https://ditzes.com https://ditzes.com, be able to read HN while offline + chronological order of the comments without putting any importance on points (edit: and well, to have a dark UI to be able to read after the sun goes down too). Here is this comment thread in ditzes: https://ditzes.com/item/33558531 https://ditzes.com/item/33558531 I mainly use it via a browser bookmark that redirects me from HN to Ditzes. If I find a comment I like, click the date with middle-mouse to open the comment in proper HN to comment. Here's the bookmark in case people wanna use it: javascript:window.location.href = 'https://ditzes.com/item/' + (new URLSearchParams(window.location.search)).get('id');
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by kleiba 4y ago

3np 4y ago

These two, together: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect Sounds like the changes you want should be possible to add to NewPipe.

capableweb 4y ago
https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect https://github.com/libredirect/libredirect is a bit over-zealous. Love the idea, but I still want to be able to browse the homepages of the sites. After installing the addon and visiting just https://youtube.com https://youtube.com I get redirected to https://inv.vern.cc/ https://inv.vern.cc/ that just displays "Our main server's ISP is having issues, even router resets haven't fixed it. We apologize for this long downtime". Visiting https://twitter.com https://twitter.com I get redirected to https://twt.funami.tech/ https://twt.funami.tech/ which displays "502 Bad Gateway" Not a great experience to be honest. Still, love the idea, but execution is poor at best.

cube00 4y ago

Don't even bother, you only have to look at how often youtube-dl has to change to keep up with Google's infinite breaking UI changes. There's so many other open source projects that would benefit from your efforts that don't feed the Google machine.

selfhoster11 4y ago
You could likely build something on top of youtube-dl to output a chronological list of videos. Instead of downloading, dump metadata for each video and then sort locally.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/blob/develop/support/doc/tools.md#peertube-import-videosjs https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/blob/develop/support/...
- Macuyiko 4y ago
  yt-dlp --flat-playlist --extractor-args youtubetab:approximate_date "https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling" --print "%(upload_date)s %(id)s" 1> out.txt && sort out.txt Takes longer if you want precise dates: yt-dlp --simulate "https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling" --print "%(upload_date)s %(id)s" 1> out.txt && sort out.txt

TT-392 4y ago

I'd just recommend using newpipe, piped, or invidious, although, I guess they don't have sort by oldest, just by newest

throwaway744678 4y ago
Eh, turn your screen upside down!

benjaminwootton 4y ago

Exactly the same here. I mainly use YouTube for education and the discovery is awful. That said, being able to sort comments chronologically here on HN would be nice too, so people in glass houses…

BiteCode_dev 4y ago
In all big platforms, navigation beyond dumb consumption is aweful. Twitter, Facebook, Insta: try finding back a tweet of yours from last month, or explore the early posting of Guido van Rossum.
capableweb 4y ago
> That said, being able to sort comments chronologically here on HN would be nice too, so people in glass houses… This is basically the main reason I wrote https://ditzes.com https://ditzes.com, be able to read HN while offline + chronological order of the comments without putting any importance on points (edit: and well, to have a dark UI to be able to read after the sun goes down too). Here is this comment thread in ditzes: https://ditzes.com/item/33558531 https://ditzes.com/item/33558531 I mainly use it via a browser bookmark that redirects me from HN to Ditzes. If I find a comment I like, click the date with middle-mouse to open the comment in proper HN to comment. Here's the bookmark in case people wanna use it: javascript:window.location.href = 'https://ditzes.com/item/' + (new URLSearchParams(window.location.search)).get('id');

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