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Every user on Twitter should be paying a monthly fee with one-time service fees for those who want additional verification and services. The fact Netflix/Disne

Every user on Twitter should be paying a monthly fee with one-time service fees for those who want additional verification and services. The fact Netflix/Disney/Hulu/Amazon/Apple make as much as they do is crazy compared to how much people use Twitter for free. Advertising models are absolute dogshit that never really worked. People will pay for access if you improve the experience - like no ads from the get go.

gregjor 4y ago
Never really worked? How do you think Meta/Facebook and Google got so rich? The television and media companies before them? Subscriptions can work too but you need a product people want that no one else can offer. Apple and Disney have that, but I doubt Twitter does.
- chatterhead 4y ago
  I'm speaking specifically about social media; like the one Google shut down because it wasn't viable. Facebook/Meta still don't make money for most their clients they simply promise returns and marketing depts have to utilize them because everyone else is and it's mostly fueled by leverage. In my experience, advertising isn't worth it if you aren't a large corp. with access to debt and require a presence and even then it's mostly a loss leader.
  - gregjor 4y ago
    I often wonder how companies make so much money selling advertising. I don't think I respond to advertising, but hard to know for sure since I get exposed to it non-stop everywhere I look. I agree that smaller companies don't seem to get return on advertising spend, at least I've never seen it happen.
rektide 4y ago
The network's only value is because it is publicly available. Destroy that and there is no value to Twitter. Alternatives will grow & flourish & the chapter of greatness & success will close. I don't see how you defend such a small view, of limitation & constraint & denial.
- chatterhead 4y ago
  Which services will people flock to? Mastodon and the Fediverse? Matrix? WhatsApp? Back to Facebook? I think you seriously overestimate how easily people change. Likely, because you aren't afraid of it. Most are and would pay to keep from having to do it; especially if you incentivize it with an improved experience. I'd agree people will switch to free platforms if too many changes take place at once as it would basically be the same thing as finding something new. I.E. Payments + Verification + Everything X whatever app crap. etc.

gregjor 4y ago

Never really worked? How do you think Meta/Facebook and Google got so rich? The television and media companies before them? Subscriptions can work too but you need a product people want that no one else can offer. Apple and Disney have that, but I doubt Twitter does.

chatterhead 4y ago
I'm speaking specifically about social media; like the one Google shut down because it wasn't viable. Facebook/Meta still don't make money for most their clients they simply promise returns and marketing depts have to utilize them because everyone else is and it's mostly fueled by leverage. In my experience, advertising isn't worth it if you aren't a large corp. with access to debt and require a presence and even then it's mostly a loss leader.
- gregjor 4y ago
  I often wonder how companies make so much money selling advertising. I don't think I respond to advertising, but hard to know for sure since I get exposed to it non-stop everywhere I look. I agree that smaller companies don't seem to get return on advertising spend, at least I've never seen it happen.

rektide 4y ago

The network's only value is because it is publicly available. Destroy that and there is no value to Twitter. Alternatives will grow & flourish & the chapter of greatness & success will close. I don't see how you defend such a small view, of limitation & constraint & denial.

chatterhead 4y ago
Which services will people flock to? Mastodon and the Fediverse? Matrix? WhatsApp? Back to Facebook? I think you seriously overestimate how easily people change. Likely, because you aren't afraid of it. Most are and would pay to keep from having to do it; especially if you incentivize it with an improved experience. I'd agree people will switch to free platforms if too many changes take place at once as it would basically be the same thing as finding something new. I.E. Payments + Verification + Everything X whatever app crap. etc.