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>The drug is $500k, the surrounding medical care / hospitalizations etc pushes the total cost to over $1,000,000 In the US. Outside the US, hospitalization is
by midoridensha 4y ago
>The drug is $500k, the surrounding medical care / hospitalizations etc pushes the total cost to over $1,000,000
In the US. Outside the US, hospitalization isn't that expensive.
- zo1 4y agoFor reference, here in South Africa, it's about 250$ per day of hospitalization. Or 1500$ for ICU hospitalization per day. And we have private Healthcare here.
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- vagrantJin 4y agoPardon me. Is the 250$ per day in a public or private health facility?
- zo1 4y agoPrivate, though you don't pay it out of pocket for 95% of stuff as the medical aid covers it using your premium. Public is probably much much cheaper (free) but not a place any sane middle class person here would ever want to experience.
- dodslaser 4y agoUS healthcare really does put a new spin on the term "life savings". Here in the Democratic People's Republic of Sweden healthcare is government funded and universal.
- sedeki 4y agoIndependently of where one stands politically, we Swedes are lucky that our government can import expensive medical treatments from large evil US corporations that do the work for us.
- saiya-jin 4y agoIts not like US is the only manufacturer of medical tools which and treatments for the only way to pay is via that ridiculous medical system they have there. Thats a nice fable that US pharma would like you to believe since they profit from it generously. Those items are done all around the world, ie in Switzerland. And a lot of tools come from ie Germany (Siemens), Netherlands (Philips) etc.
- tomhallett 4y agoI chuckled when I read this, because when I think about the "brand" for Philips/Siemens, my default assumption is "American company". When you mentioned it, I recalled "Oh yeah, I've heard that Siemens is german before", but being raised with the "American Exceptionalism" mental framework means this thought isn't the default. (Versus brands like Volkswagen/Ikea/Toyota). Embarrassing example: I was watching Federer play Nadal and thought "Wow, American athletes are great. I'm proud that we have the best. Wait... neither of these guys are american. Let me google where they're from. What am I so proud of exactly??" The number of times we hear "this is the greatest country in the world" on a daily basis is really quite sad.
- sedeki 4y agoI am not trying to come across as patronizing, but the US is, in my opinion, the greatest country in the history of the world. I am sorry that you feel that way about your country as a fellow human (I am not being sarcastic), but my positive view on American exceptionalism has nothing to do with you personally, just your culture.
- atdrummond 4y agoAmericans are often embarrassed of America, which I think tends to stem from the fact that they think it can be even better than it is. Which isn’t a bad way of looking at things, IMHO.
- mrtranscendence 4y ago
- nisegami 4y agoWould the Democratic People's Republic of Sweden be willing to drop that kind of dole on a single patient? It seems wasteful to me.
- koevet 4y agoyes, in the Democratic People's Republic of Germany (specifically in the anarchist Berlin enclave), a friend of mine received successful cancer treatment that ended up costing well over 500k (and she is not even German)
- nisegami 4y agoReading stuff like this just short circuits my brain because I can't even fathom such a society existing. Yet, it clearly does.
- thrawn0r 4y agothis member of the anarchist enclave berlin is paying 750EUR per month (plus the 750EUR my employer does) for these treatments. solidarity ftw!
- Auracle 4y agoThat sounds potentially pretty similar to US insurance costs.
- koevet 4y agoGermany has a different setup than most EU countries: one can be insured privately or publicly. Public insurance costs are based on income. Private insurance costs are based on health/age etc. Moving from private insurance to public is almost impossible, as far as I know. To give you an idea, I recently switched to private insurance and cut my monthly cost by 50%.
- dodslaser 4y agoDepends on your definition of waste. Is it wasteful if it ends up saving a life?
- throwaway69123 4y agoAre you saying hospitalization isnt that expensive to the patient or where its socialized medicine the overall cost?
- refurb 4y agoIt's not as expensive as the US, but it's still bloody expensive to get intensive care in a hospital. It's not unusual for a premie baby who stays in an nICU in Canada for a month to have a treatment cost well over $500,000.