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This is quite frustrating to see as someone who has been in the Vocaloid fandom since '08 and maintains a pretty sizable Vocaloid community. The "realism" of V

This is quite frustrating to see as someone who has been in the Vocaloid fandom since '08 and maintains a pretty sizable Vocaloid community. The "realism" of Vocaloid is not exactly a priority--a lot of people enjoy the robotic sounding voice. Making ridiculous statements like "blow it out of the water" really rubs me the wrong way of the typical techbro looking for objective KPIs instead of what the general vibe of the fandom. To me, this is like saying "DAWs blows physical instruments out of the water because it can create a lot more sounds!"--you're right, but you're totally missing the point. Here's a KPI: nobody is making music from Synthesizer V, and it's not exactly very popular. > Vocaloid was the only real competitor in vocal synths for so long they completely stopped innovating. Very IE6-esque. This is probably the only fair argument here. The Vocaloid editor has always been quite difficult to use, and recent competitors in that space has made improvements to it. Hatsune Miku's new release moves away from Vocaloid in favor of a Piapro/Crypton voice engine with a better editor, for instance.

mjr00 4y ago
I didn't mean to sound so negative on Vocaloid. For what it's worth, I'm a producer who used to make songs with Vocaloid (Gumi English) and switched to SynthV this year, so I'm speaking mainly from that perspective. Vocaloid can still make great songs. I'm a big fan of all of the NEXTLIGHT artists (picco, Twinfield, etc) in particular. Certainly not trying to dunk on the fandom or artists. However, I do think that it's a lot more limited in what it can do. The voices in Vocaloid sound quite synthetic, and there's only so far you can go if you're not going for a stereotypical "Vocaloid-sounding" vocal. IMO, Synth V can get pretty close to the Vocaloid sound with Eleanor Forte, but in addition can also produce some much more realistic-sounding vocals, especially with Solaria, Eleanor AI, or the newer Dreamtronics AI voicebanks. People are making music with Synth V! Check out AIKA who has made some amazing songs using Synth V.

mjr00 4y ago

I didn't mean to sound so negative on Vocaloid. For what it's worth, I'm a producer who used to make songs with Vocaloid (Gumi English) and switched to SynthV this year, so I'm speaking mainly from that perspective. Vocaloid can still make great songs. I'm a big fan of all of the NEXTLIGHT artists (picco, Twinfield, etc) in particular. Certainly not trying to dunk on the fandom or artists. However, I do think that it's a lot more limited in what it can do. The voices in Vocaloid sound quite synthetic, and there's only so far you can go if you're not going for a stereotypical "Vocaloid-sounding" vocal. IMO, Synth V can get pretty close to the Vocaloid sound with Eleanor Forte, but in addition can also produce some much more realistic-sounding vocals, especially with Solaria, Eleanor AI, or the newer Dreamtronics AI voicebanks. People are making music with Synth V! Check out AIKA who has made some amazing songs using Synth V.