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What was a clone of oink, which was the first and blazed the trail for all to follow.

by ct0 4y ago

Melting_Harps 4y ago
> What was a clone of oink, which was the first and blazed the trail for all to follow. I was going to post the same, it had a very healthy community that was only rivaled by some very select/invite only alt.binaries on usenet--when Demonoid was strictly invite only it carried some of the weight, but my tastes in music changed dramatically around that time and I instead started to buy vinyl (2007?) in order to support a small niche sound since the music I was into was mainly artist/producer released. It was supposed to re-lauch in '14 [0] but never did, but by then I had already a decent vinyl and mp3 collection because as I used to play around with DJing and had got to know lots of producers/artists on/offline; in short, it's a cold, hard and messy Industry but what's clear is that while producer led labels became a norm in that time and had lots of penetration, it suffered from the same issues that majors did in the end. White-label one offs and tests presses are a form of currency in dub-culture so it never went away, but it was a net loss monetarily speaking for most and really started to be seen as a business expense/marketing. Producers were almost always also DJs or MCs (some were all 3!) and had to tour and link up with major artists or sponsors like RedBull, who built an academy for producers and covered lots of expenses for them to tour on special events and nights with specific clubs. What Oink never really got right in my view because it was so early was the social aspect, a huge part of music-sharing was the commonality that we would run into those people who shared our tastes out at clubs/events. Even if it was a one off event it was still cool to put a name/face to the handle online who you share with and could relate with--that's the point of dubplates and test press. I've spent lots of time with my nose in a crate at random record shops in US/EU/UK and that feeling you get is unique and equally special as the music itself! Cypherpunks/Bitcoiners were the first to actually try to do microtxs on Soundcloud [1] in order to monetize their work in an appreciating asset: hell, I got paid by a bitcoin whale (also a music lover) to try and spear-head this initiative when I told him about what music community I was a part of and even met with a few DJs from the UK coming to the US that month. Sadly, it was way too early and most were in the middle of a tour so had to direct their attention to that and no one collected their funds, but overall seemed excited about the prospect of having a userbase serve as a patreaon of sorts on a platform they themselves could curate. 0: https://torrentfreak.com/busted-torrent-site-oink-prepares-indie-comeback-130916/ https://torrentfreak.com/busted-torrent-site-oink-prepares-i... 1: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/changetip-brings-bitcoin-tipping-soundcloud-amid-privacy-concerns-1431720775 https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/changetip-brings-bitcoin...
z0r 4y ago
Nobody remembers the washer dryer machine association or typhoon, not even Google it seems. It makes me feel it was all a dream
- uhh 4y ago
  wdma is still around. It's changed domains a bunch of times but it never went away. It's basically exactly the same as it was in 2005 or whatever.

What was a clone of oink, which was the first and blazed the trail for all to follow.

by ct0 4y ago

What was a clone of oink, which was the first and blazed the trail for all to follow.

> What was a clone of oink, which was the first and blazed the trail for all to follow. I was going to post the same, it had a very healthy community that was only rivaled by some very select/invite only alt.binaries on usenet--when Demonoid was strictly invite only it carried some of the weight, but my tastes in music changed dramatically around that time and I instead started to buy vinyl (2007?) in order to support a small niche sound since the music I was into was mainly artist/producer released. It was supposed to re-lauch in '14 [0] but never did, but by then I had already a decent vinyl and mp3 collection because as I used to play around with DJing and had got to know lots of producers/artists on/offline; in short, it's a cold, hard and messy Industry but what's clear is that while producer led labels became a norm in that time and had lots of penetration, it suffered from the same issues that majors did in the end. White-label one offs and tests presses are a form of currency in dub-culture so it never went away, but it was a net loss monetarily speaking for most and really started to be seen as a business expense/marketing. Producers were almost always also DJs or MCs (some were all 3!) and had to tour and link up with major artists or sponsors like RedBull, who built an academy for producers and covered lots of expenses for them to tour on special events and nights with specific clubs. What Oink never really got right in my view because it was so early was the social aspect, a huge part of music-sharing was the commonality that we would run into those people who shared our tastes out at clubs/events. Even if it was a one off event it was still cool to put a name/face to the handle online who you share with and could relate with--that's the point of dubplates and test press. I've spent lots of time with my nose in a crate at random record shops in US/EU/UK and that feeling you get is unique and equally special as the music itself! Cypherpunks/Bitcoiners were the first to actually try to do microtxs on Soundcloud [1] in order to monetize their work in an appreciating asset: hell, I got paid by a bitcoin whale (also a music lover) to try and spear-head this initiative when I told him about what music community I was a part of and even met with a few DJs from the UK coming to the US that month. Sadly, it was way too early and most were in the middle of a tour so had to direct their attention to that and no one collected their funds, but overall seemed excited about the prospect of having a userbase serve as a patreaon of sorts on a platform they themselves could curate. 0: https://torrentfreak.com/busted-torrent-site-oink-prepares-indie-comeback-130916/ https://torrentfreak.com/busted-torrent-site-oink-prepares-i... 1: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/changetip-brings-bitcoin-tipping-soundcloud-amid-privacy-concerns-1431720775 https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/changetip-brings-bitcoin...

z0r 4y ago

Nobody remembers the washer dryer machine association or typhoon, not even Google it seems. It makes me feel it was all a dream

uhh 4y ago
wdma is still around. It's changed domains a bunch of times but it never went away. It's basically exactly the same as it was in 2005 or whatever.