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Sure, dude. You're just as smart and capable as the world's most successful entrepreneur, but you're just a little too ethical to lower yourself to his level.

by muskta05196519 4y ago

Sure, dude. You're just as smart and capable as the world's most successful entrepreneur, but you're just a little too ethical to lower yourself to his level. This is pure faerie-dust self-aggrandizement. If you want to make these assertions, you can prove them. No one else is stopping you, after all.

7sidedmarble 4y ago
Counterpoint: most people who are incredibly smart or incredibly hard working or even both, are not incredibly rich. Musk is clearly an intelligent person in so far as your average person is not really interested in rocket science, or capable of running a business, but I hesitate to attribute his becoming the richest man on earth to his incredible intelligence. I think it should be evident that success in capitalism relies on a huge combination of factors.
- nyokodo 4y ago
  > it should be evident that success in capitalism relies on a huge combination of factors. I’ll be happy with the discussion if a single Elon hater admits that regardless of anything else Elon is not actually stupid. You cannot be actually stupid and do what he has done it is totally beyond any reasonable interpretation.
  - bigbacaloa 4y ago
    I know lots of highly successful charlatans in areas that require being smart but who are basically unethical fools. I'm talking about scientific researchers and engineers. People with 300 grange papers running a research institute who have never published an original thing in their lives.
    - nyokodo 4y ago
      > but who are basically unethical fools Putting aside that these "unethical fools" would have to be at least really good grifters, politicians, and other synonyms...to make the analogy more accurate I'd wager these alleged charlatans didn't serially found multiple research institutes, run them concurrently in some cases, that are producing ground-breaking real-world results some of which their contemporaries said was essentially impossible (e.g. landing an orbital booster). Elon is either a genius in some manner, be it the greatest grifter in history or something, or Zeus is rigging the wheel of fortune in his favor for some reason. I'm not a big fan of the Zeus theory.

7sidedmarble 4y ago

Counterpoint: most people who are incredibly smart or incredibly hard working or even both, are not incredibly rich. Musk is clearly an intelligent person in so far as your average person is not really interested in rocket science, or capable of running a business, but I hesitate to attribute his becoming the richest man on earth to his incredible intelligence. I think it should be evident that success in capitalism relies on a huge combination of factors.

nyokodo 4y ago
> it should be evident that success in capitalism relies on a huge combination of factors. I’ll be happy with the discussion if a single Elon hater admits that regardless of anything else Elon is not actually stupid. You cannot be actually stupid and do what he has done it is totally beyond any reasonable interpretation.
- bigbacaloa 4y ago
  I know lots of highly successful charlatans in areas that require being smart but who are basically unethical fools. I'm talking about scientific researchers and engineers. People with 300 grange papers running a research institute who have never published an original thing in their lives.
  - nyokodo 4y ago
    > but who are basically unethical fools Putting aside that these "unethical fools" would have to be at least really good grifters, politicians, and other synonyms...to make the analogy more accurate I'd wager these alleged charlatans didn't serially found multiple research institutes, run them concurrently in some cases, that are producing ground-breaking real-world results some of which their contemporaries said was essentially impossible (e.g. landing an orbital booster). Elon is either a genius in some manner, be it the greatest grifter in history or something, or Zeus is rigging the wheel of fortune in his favor for some reason. I'm not a big fan of the Zeus theory.