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It does make sense. Compression is a uniformly applied filter. It's like a contrast adjustment or colour curve. It also affects amplitude only. (It can also be

It does make sense. Compression is a uniformly applied filter. It's like a contrast adjustment or colour curve. It also affects amplitude only. (It can also be done really badly - I'm not a huge fan of its abuse in the loudness wars, but that's not what we're talking about here.) Compression is an effect that's applied. Selective tuning, like quantisation, is the result of an _interactive, selective edit_. It's the equivalent of photoshopping out the spots on my ass and making my hips a little narrower. Sure I could have not had that ingrown asshair, and maybe my hips would be narrower if I worked out. But the reality is different. (Also IMHO ratio is a better single indicator of severity of compression, rather than dB)

mjr00 4y ago
If you're seriously interested in this topic, you should look into some vocal processing courses or videos on YouTube, because you are quite misinformed on some of this stuff. > Compression is a uniformly applied filter. It's like a contrast adjustment or colour curve. It also affects amplitude only. Very incorrect. Many famous compressors are known for the color (saturation, technically speaking) that they add to the sound. Hell, some are known for how badly they destroy the sound, like the Level-Loc. Analog-style compressors (which most engineers still use for vocals, in particular) also react very differently to different input gains, so it's not a uniformly applied filter. > (Also IMHO ratio is a better single indicator of severity of compression, rather than dB) It is not. Talking in terms of total gain reduction is more indicative of the effect on the sound. Using a 100:1 ratio (in practice, a limiter, something like Pro-L on Safe mode) is very common on vocals to catch quick peaks, but only catching a few dB of gain reduction. You won't notice that a limiter is being used on vocals this way. But you would notice if I used a 2:1 ratio on a vocal and set the threshold all the way down, crushing the dynamic range. You also can't talk about ratios when talking about using compressors in serial, which again, is standard vocal processing.
- boomskats 4y ago
  > If you're seriously interested in this topic, you should look into some vocal processing courses or videos on YouTube, because you are quite misinformed on some of this stuff. Recommend one, I'd appreciate it. > Many famous compressors are known for the color (saturation, technically speaking) Are you comparing colouration / saturation from a classic compressor to autotune? I agree with you on most of the last paragraph. Thanks for the explanation.

mjr00 4y ago

If you're seriously interested in this topic, you should look into some vocal processing courses or videos on YouTube, because you are quite misinformed on some of this stuff. > Compression is a uniformly applied filter. It's like a contrast adjustment or colour curve. It also affects amplitude only. Very incorrect. Many famous compressors are known for the color (saturation, technically speaking) that they add to the sound. Hell, some are known for how badly they destroy the sound, like the Level-Loc. Analog-style compressors (which most engineers still use for vocals, in particular) also react very differently to different input gains, so it's not a uniformly applied filter. > (Also IMHO ratio is a better single indicator of severity of compression, rather than dB) It is not. Talking in terms of total gain reduction is more indicative of the effect on the sound. Using a 100:1 ratio (in practice, a limiter, something like Pro-L on Safe mode) is very common on vocals to catch quick peaks, but only catching a few dB of gain reduction. You won't notice that a limiter is being used on vocals this way. But you would notice if I used a 2:1 ratio on a vocal and set the threshold all the way down, crushing the dynamic range. You also can't talk about ratios when talking about using compressors in serial, which again, is standard vocal processing.

boomskats 4y ago
> If you're seriously interested in this topic, you should look into some vocal processing courses or videos on YouTube, because you are quite misinformed on some of this stuff. Recommend one, I'd appreciate it. > Many famous compressors are known for the color (saturation, technically speaking) Are you comparing colouration / saturation from a classic compressor to autotune? I agree with you on most of the last paragraph. Thanks for the explanation.