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"It has to be done" isn't helped by "throwing money at schemes that don't do what they claim to do on the tin." Especially when, by people doing that, they fee
by Syonyk 4y ago
"It has to be done" isn't helped by "throwing money at schemes that don't do what they claim to do on the tin." Especially when, by people doing that, they feel that they've "solved the problem" and can go on consuming as they have been.
To a certain group of people, "carbon offsets" are more or less the old church "indulgences" - permission to {sin, emit} with the consequences covered. And if that money is doing nothing but enriching some people in the middle while not actually doing anything useful ("We'll not cut down this forest... that we we weren't planning to cut down anyway", or "Sure, we'll protect this land... and go clearcut the next mile over because we don't care where the ranch goes"), it's worse than nothing - because you've now "granted permission to emit" while not actually offsetting anything.
That's not how it should be, but it's certainly how a lot of people perceive it to be. "Oh, it's fine, it's carbon neutral, I have an offset subscription" vs having to actually face that their carbon emissions aren't being offset.
So I don't think it's fair to say that people asking questions about "Is the money being paid doing what it's supposed to actually do?" are pro-carbon or something. There's a lot of outright fraud in that space, and an API that smooths the friction of larger fraud isn't something useful. If you're going the wrong way to your stated destination, going that wrong way faster isn't helpful.
Now, can I have all your surplus money to put into solar farms somewhere? Don't ask if they're in coal heavy territory or somewhere with a bunch of nuclear /hydro, it doesn't matter, right? We have to do everything we possibly can!
... except the one thing that would make a difference, which is consume radically less.
- _yb2s 4y agoI don't understand how this criticism applies to OPs service. Why do you think the emissions aren't really truly being offset? It looks like they provide 5 different CO2 capture services through different partners, and the projects methods and details are widely available. You can choose any desired ratio of the 5. Of these 5, 4 of them seem to be methods that, for a cost, directly and physically remove a known quantity of CO2 from the atmosphere. Only one, Forestation, seems to be potentially prone to the type of ambiguities you mention, where the intended impact never actually occurs, but this depends on if it's actually being done properly. The partner they are using is onetreeplanted, which seems to be endorsed by or partnered with a lot of credible environmental organizations.
- kisamoto 4y agoMinor correction in that our primary forestation partner is Eden Forestation (although we have used OneTreePlanted in the past) but everything else you mention is accurate - thanks!
- _yb2s 4y agoYour main website links to OneTreePlanted on the page https://carbonremoved.com/carbon-removal-projects/reforestation-california/ https://carbonremoved.com/carbon-removal-projects/reforestat...