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> As always, the country known for its human rights (or so they advertise themselves as) As someone who wasn't aware of this association, I'm curious where do

> As always, the country known for its human rights (or so they advertise themselves as) As someone who wasn't aware of this association, I'm curious where do they advertise themselves for human rights?

ramesh31 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberté,_égalité,_fraternité https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberté,_égalité,_fraternité
- ASalazarMX 4y ago
  "Tell me what you boast of, and I'll tell you what you lack." - Old Hispanic proverb
  - kergonath 4y ago
    There’s this old quote from Surcouf (a French privateer from the late 18th and early 19th century). When an English captain told him “you Frenchmen fight merely for money. Whereas us Englishmen fight for Honour”, he answered “well, everyone fights for what he lacks”.
Cupertino95014 4y ago
Their justification for colonizing countries was that France had a "civilizing mission." Maybe you've heard of that? I realize that's not necessarily identical to "human rights."
- webmobdev 4y ago
  I think that has more to do with Christianity - that political narrative of "civilising" people was a common binding thread between all the imperialists. It was thus common for Christian missionaries to be some of the first settlers in any new colony.
- lm28469 4y ago
  Funnily enough that was a very left wing view too
FrenchAmerican 4y ago
This refers to the Declararation of Rights of Man dated August 1789. It's still nowadays the foreword to the French Constitution. Hence the idea that France is the home of the human rights, which is deeply rooted in the representation of many French of themselves as a country. Obviously, there is a huge gap with reality - but that can be opposed to any idealistic set of principles.
- lm28469 4y ago
  > deeply rooted in the representation of many French of themselves as a country. I wouldn't say that, I've never experiences it that way, neither in school nor in day to day life, it's more of an historical factoid. Kind of the same with America's "land of the free", sounds good on paper but not many people take it seriously.

ramesh31 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberté,_égalité,_fraternité https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberté,_égalité,_fraternité

ASalazarMX 4y ago
"Tell me what you boast of, and I'll tell you what you lack." - Old Hispanic proverb
- kergonath 4y ago
  There’s this old quote from Surcouf (a French privateer from the late 18th and early 19th century). When an English captain told him “you Frenchmen fight merely for money. Whereas us Englishmen fight for Honour”, he answered “well, everyone fights for what he lacks”.

Cupertino95014 4y ago

Their justification for colonizing countries was that France had a "civilizing mission." Maybe you've heard of that? I realize that's not necessarily identical to "human rights."

webmobdev 4y ago
I think that has more to do with Christianity - that political narrative of "civilising" people was a common binding thread between all the imperialists. It was thus common for Christian missionaries to be some of the first settlers in any new colony.
lm28469 4y ago
Funnily enough that was a very left wing view too

FrenchAmerican 4y ago

This refers to the Declararation of Rights of Man dated August 1789. It's still nowadays the foreword to the French Constitution. Hence the idea that France is the home of the human rights, which is deeply rooted in the representation of many French of themselves as a country. Obviously, there is a huge gap with reality - but that can be opposed to any idealistic set of principles.

lm28469 4y ago
> deeply rooted in the representation of many French of themselves as a country. I wouldn't say that, I've never experiences it that way, neither in school nor in day to day life, it's more of an historical factoid. Kind of the same with America's "land of the free", sounds good on paper but not many people take it seriously.