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Musk attracts engineers by selling a vision. Reusable rockets to make humanity an interstellar species. Electric vehicles to free humanity from fossil fuels. Hu

Musk attracts engineers by selling a vision. Reusable rockets to make humanity an interstellar species. Electric vehicles to free humanity from fossil fuels. Humanoid robots. Neuralink. And on it goes. For Twitter, the vision Musk is selling is that "it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence". [1] That might not be your cup of tea, or you might believe Musk is too petulant a leader to bring that vision to fruition. But it is an aspiration that will make some people excited and willing to put in the hard work Musk is demanding. [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728

rurp 4y ago
>For Twitter, the vision Musk is selling is that "it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence". Unless you make fun of the owner, that gets you banned ASAP. Also, I don't think most people associate a massive increase in hate speech and harassment with a healthy town square. Threatening paying customers who show any reticence is an "interesting" way to grow a business. It's early still, but this has basically been the vision pitch so far.
- joenathanone 4y ago
  Not only that but the owner is tweeting hateful images and articles with misinformation.
- kortilla 4y ago
  Yes, and the vision pitch for spacex early one was exploding rockets if you’re that myopic.
d23 4y ago
> For Twitter, the vision Musk is selling is that "it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence". [1] Musk seems like one of the people least capable on earth of having a debate in a healthy manner.
makeitdouble 4y ago
> a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner Musk says a lot of things, some serious and others 100% trolling, and we have a hard time knowing how serious he is for any of them. Even as he’s addressing the main customers of his company, given his past and present behavior, we can’t take your quote at face value and assume any of it is meaningful (he’s saying that while reducing the moderation staff…) My definition of “competent engineer” includes reading between the lines and making an effort to understand what is actually required for a job to be done. I don’t see any competent engineer joining on publicly shared empty promises.
mcv 4y ago
But that's not remotely as inspiring a vision as the others. Nor is it new, or is he presenting Twitter or himself as the best parties to accomplish this. People who care about this vision are running their own forums and fediverse servers.

rurp 4y ago

>For Twitter, the vision Musk is selling is that "it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence". Unless you make fun of the owner, that gets you banned ASAP. Also, I don't think most people associate a massive increase in hate speech and harassment with a healthy town square. Threatening paying customers who show any reticence is an "interesting" way to grow a business. It's early still, but this has basically been the vision pitch so far.

joenathanone 4y ago
Not only that but the owner is tweeting hateful images and articles with misinformation.
kortilla 4y ago
Yes, and the vision pitch for spacex early one was exploding rockets if you’re that myopic.

d23 4y ago

> For Twitter, the vision Musk is selling is that "it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence". [1] Musk seems like one of the people least capable on earth of having a debate in a healthy manner.

makeitdouble 4y ago

> a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner Musk says a lot of things, some serious and others 100% trolling, and we have a hard time knowing how serious he is for any of them. Even as he’s addressing the main customers of his company, given his past and present behavior, we can’t take your quote at face value and assume any of it is meaningful (he’s saying that while reducing the moderation staff…) My definition of “competent engineer” includes reading between the lines and making an effort to understand what is actually required for a job to be done. I don’t see any competent engineer joining on publicly shared empty promises.

mcv 4y ago

But that's not remotely as inspiring a vision as the others. Nor is it new, or is he presenting Twitter or himself as the best parties to accomplish this. People who care about this vision are running their own forums and fediverse servers.