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It's fascinating to watch all of the powers that be fighting this ownership change so hard. I wonder why they found control of Twitter so important..?

by yucky 4y ago

Imnimo 4y ago
How is this "fighting this ownership change" if Twitter has been under this consent decree for over a decade?
- yucky 4y ago
  I was referring to this being made into some huge news story, when literally nothing changed. Why were we not blasted with scary missives about this consent decree 2 months ago or 2 years ago? There are people trying to flood the internet with non-stop negative Twitter stories, which is the part I find fascinating. I don't find the consent decree to be fascinating at all. It will be interesting to see how selective enforcement is though.
  - deleted_account 4y ago
    The Elon-Twitter saga is fascinating in quasi r/ABoringDystopia meets, well, Twitter sort of way. The stage is set with a billionaire doubling down on a meme and then stumbling into an absurd $45B baby trap. The Internet loves watching a fool and their money parted; Twitter definitely loves watching a fool and their money parted. And then, for some, it’s dawning that Musk has been on this MAGA-infused, grade-school-interpretation-of-free-speech trajectory and the stakes of this Twitter acquisition are suddenly much higher. Doubly so when you review the behind the scenes discussions [1] and believe Musk is completely disingenuous (any guess who “the boss himself” is?) in his desire for a neutral platform[2]. I’ve been doom-scrolling the Elon-Twitter news mostly for the rapid unravelling of Musk’s ur-engineer persona. His engineering management has been a cavalcade of bully choices: shitcan half the company, stack rank your engineers by LOC, enforce work-the-weekend death marches, and throw all your coders on to a manager schedule...in an office...in 2022. Maybe my opinion will change when I start hearing stories about the first of his Twitter pull requests, but right now he’s looking like a dilettante who meme'd into a shit show and has forgotten his ambitions to make us a multi-planet species. [1] https://danluu.com/elon-twitter-texts/#22 https://danluu.com/elon-twitter-texts/#22 [2] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589639376186724354 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589639376186724354
  - fragmede 4y ago
    Because the people who were in charge two months/years ago understood the consent decree, were afraid of the FTC, had the manpower to actually obey it without having software engineers to self-certify with possible legal repercussions to themselves. The new guy doesn't give a shit about the consent decree, the FTC, or his employees' exposure. He also released a new feature without going through rigorous safety and compliance review, exactly the thing the consent degree mandates. If that's "nothing has changed", I'd hate to see what your busy weeks look like.
joecot 4y ago
Probably this > In a note posted to Twitter’s Slack and viewable to all staff that was obtained by The Verge, an attorney on the company’s privacy team wrote, “Elon has shown that his only priority with Twitter users is how to monetize them. I do not believe he cares about the human rights activists. the dissidents, our users in un-monetizable regions, and all the other users who have made Twitter the global town square you have all spent so long building, and we all love.” Twitter became a de facto official communication channel for many organizations and politicians. Despite all his flaws Trump showed how important Twitter was to political discourse. I'm hopeful that the move to the Fediverse / Mastodon will allow organizations to maintain official discourse, but using their own server instances, such that they're not beholden to the whims and changing owners of a VC funded corporation, who apparently stopped caring about FTC decrees.
- yucky 4y ago
  But wait, when people said they shouldn't censor unpopular or non-mainstream speech due to them being "a global town square", they protested that they were simply a website and people were free to make their own Twitter. What happened to that? Now all of a sudden it matters that all voices be heard?
  - deleted_account 4y ago
    The FTC decree isn't related to free speech. It was a part of a settlement the FTC reached with Twitter regarding their mishandling of customer data[1]. The original article is anticipating a messy collision Twitter's legal obligations to the FTC and Musk's inscrutable product development roadmap given the recent employee churn (both layoffs and exits from key roles, e.g. CISO, CPO, & CCO.) [1] https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2011/03/ftc-accepts-final-settlement-twitter-failure-safeguard-personal-information-0 https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2011/03/...
    - yucky 4y ago
      anticipating a messy collision Ah yes, the backbone of current day journalism.

It's fascinating to watch all of the powers that be fighting this ownership change so hard. I wonder why they found control of Twitter so important..?

by yucky 4y ago

It's fascinating to watch all of the powers that be fighting this ownership change so hard. I wonder why they found control of Twitter so important..?

Imnimo 4y ago

How is this "fighting this ownership change" if Twitter has been under this consent decree for over a decade?

yucky 4y ago
I was referring to this being made into some huge news story, when literally nothing changed. Why were we not blasted with scary missives about this consent decree 2 months ago or 2 years ago? There are people trying to flood the internet with non-stop negative Twitter stories, which is the part I find fascinating. I don't find the consent decree to be fascinating at all. It will be interesting to see how selective enforcement is though.
- deleted_account 4y ago
  The Elon-Twitter saga is fascinating in quasi r/ABoringDystopia meets, well, Twitter sort of way. The stage is set with a billionaire doubling down on a meme and then stumbling into an absurd $45B baby trap. The Internet loves watching a fool and their money parted; Twitter definitely loves watching a fool and their money parted. And then, for some, it’s dawning that Musk has been on this MAGA-infused, grade-school-interpretation-of-free-speech trajectory and the stakes of this Twitter acquisition are suddenly much higher. Doubly so when you review the behind the scenes discussions [1] and believe Musk is completely disingenuous (any guess who “the boss himself” is?) in his desire for a neutral platform[2]. I’ve been doom-scrolling the Elon-Twitter news mostly for the rapid unravelling of Musk’s ur-engineer persona. His engineering management has been a cavalcade of bully choices: shitcan half the company, stack rank your engineers by LOC, enforce work-the-weekend death marches, and throw all your coders on to a manager schedule...in an office...in 2022. Maybe my opinion will change when I start hearing stories about the first of his Twitter pull requests, but right now he’s looking like a dilettante who meme'd into a shit show and has forgotten his ambitions to make us a multi-planet species. [1] https://danluu.com/elon-twitter-texts/#22 https://danluu.com/elon-twitter-texts/#22 [2] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589639376186724354 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589639376186724354
- fragmede 4y ago
  Because the people who were in charge two months/years ago understood the consent decree, were afraid of the FTC, had the manpower to actually obey it without having software engineers to self-certify with possible legal repercussions to themselves. The new guy doesn't give a shit about the consent decree, the FTC, or his employees' exposure. He also released a new feature without going through rigorous safety and compliance review, exactly the thing the consent degree mandates. If that's "nothing has changed", I'd hate to see what your busy weeks look like.

joecot 4y ago

Probably this > In a note posted to Twitter’s Slack and viewable to all staff that was obtained by The Verge, an attorney on the company’s privacy team wrote, “Elon has shown that his only priority with Twitter users is how to monetize them. I do not believe he cares about the human rights activists. the dissidents, our users in un-monetizable regions, and all the other users who have made Twitter the global town square you have all spent so long building, and we all love.” Twitter became a de facto official communication channel for many organizations and politicians. Despite all his flaws Trump showed how important Twitter was to political discourse. I'm hopeful that the move to the Fediverse / Mastodon will allow organizations to maintain official discourse, but using their own server instances, such that they're not beholden to the whims and changing owners of a VC funded corporation, who apparently stopped caring about FTC decrees.

yucky 4y ago
But wait, when people said they shouldn't censor unpopular or non-mainstream speech due to them being "a global town square", they protested that they were simply a website and people were free to make their own Twitter. What happened to that? Now all of a sudden it matters that all voices be heard?
- deleted_account 4y ago
  The FTC decree isn't related to free speech. It was a part of a settlement the FTC reached with Twitter regarding their mishandling of customer data[1]. The original article is anticipating a messy collision Twitter's legal obligations to the FTC and Musk's inscrutable product development roadmap given the recent employee churn (both layoffs and exits from key roles, e.g. CISO, CPO, & CCO.) [1] https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2011/03/ftc-accepts-final-settlement-twitter-failure-safeguard-personal-information-0 https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2011/03/...
  - yucky 4y ago
    anticipating a messy collision Ah yes, the backbone of current day journalism.