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> Especially since Twitter is going republican, I do not feel like being a supporter of it: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589639376186724354 https://twit

> Especially since Twitter is going republican, I do not feel like being a supporter of it: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589639376186724354 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589639376186724354 1) "Twitter going Republican" is a debatable interpretation. First of all, as a company and platform, Twitter is and should be agnostic. As for Musk's personal opinion, what he endorsed in that tweet is a rather common centrist concept: having divided government in place so nothing too crazy gets passed by anybody. 2) Even if "Twitter went Republican" (whatever that means) Republicans are somewhere in the range of ~35-45% of the country on any given day. Is half of the country supposed to hate the other half to the point that we can't even peacefully coexist and discuss stuff on the same platform? To me, this is a shockingly bad point of view to take. If words can't be exchanged, there's only one other way to settle disputes, and it's not a good one.

bhouston 4y ago
I think you are out of touch with Elons views. He supported a protest of antivax truckers in my hometown that shut the downtown core for weeks and called our left leaning prime minister a nazi for removing them. Musk has consistently downplayed the pandemic, especially in the first year and also promoted quack remedies. I know a lot of people think Elon is always a genius (I like spaced and Tesla) but I learned in the last two years he is also a dumbass.
- logicalmonster 4y ago
  > I think you are out of touch with Elons views. Actually, I think you are. Elon Musk is literally pro-vaccine and agrees with what your position apparently is on that topic, he's just anti-mandate, there's a difference. > He supported a protest of antivax truckers in my hometown that shut the downtown core for weeks I think calling them anti-mandate protestors is more accurate, but good for Elon. People should always have the right to peacefully protest. Do we just support democracy and freedom when it's convenient? > and called our left leaning prime minister a nazi for removing them. I personally wouldn't call Trudeau a Nazi and think words like that are wrongly used in many cases, but he does appear to have some authoritarian tendencies, to put it politely. By the way, around the same time he was opposing the trucker protests, Trudeau was supporting farmer protests shutting down India saying that they always stand up for peaceful protests. > Musk has consistently downplayed the pandemic, especially in the first year The pandemic is a complicated discussion that I think we wouldn't agree on, but I'd say that downplaying the fear of the pandemic was always the best move. As we start to see some of the economic, health, educational, and other consequences of those years, I think more people will realize that we ruined a generation of humanity for very minimal benefit. > also promoted quack remedies. Citation? I think he endorsed the right of people to try and experiment with Ivermectin when there was little concrete information on it and no/few other treatments. But given the low-cost and low-risk of properly administered Ivermectin, that was always arguably the smartest risk-management decision to try.
  - bhouston 4y ago
    Whoa, you are a piece of work. You are defending calling Trudeau a Nazi, trying to pretend that anti-vax is significantly different than anti-vac mandate, claiming the Ottawa shutdown was an example of a normal peaceful protest, and that promoting Ivermectin is just people's rights. I don't know what to say, but you are clearly on "copium" in this response. I think you should work as a Russian military PR spokesman's, you'll do great telling me the Russian special operation in Ukraine is going completely as planned.
    - logicalmonster 4y ago
      You have somehow misinterpreted pretty much everything I have said: and not in a small way. Please reflect on how you read well-intentioned peoples' sincere comments and interact with people. It's ok if we disagree on values and ideas, but at least let's be on the same page about what we're disagreeing about. > You are defending calling Trudeau a Nazi My comment to you specifically stated that I'm against using that kind of language. I'd call Trudeau a hypocritical authoritarian and have many other potential labels for him, but would never compare him to a Nazi. > trying to pretend that anti-vax is significantly different than anti-vac mandate Favoring a medical treatment and favoring forcing people to take it against their will are two completely separate concepts. > claiming the Ottawa shutdown was an example of a normal peaceful protest I can't recall if there were any fights or property damage at those trucker protests, but as far as large-scale protests go, the violence and property damage seemed greatly limited compared to other protests that I've seen. I'm not Canadian and wasn't there, so please educate me if my perception is mistaken. Thanks. > and that promoting Ivermectin is just people's rights. I'm not 100% sure what Musk said about Ivermectin or other treatments that you object to, but given how you misread much of my commentary, I'd bet money on you misinterpreting what he stated. I asked you for a citation up above, if you wish to provide an example. > I think you should work as a Russian military PR spokesman's, you'll do great telling me the Russian special operation in Ukraine is going completely as planned. Russia has nothing to do with any of these comments and other than partisan thinking, I'm not sure why throwing that around as an attempted insult makes sense.
      - 4y ago

bhouston 4y ago

I think you are out of touch with Elons views. He supported a protest of antivax truckers in my hometown that shut the downtown core for weeks and called our left leaning prime minister a nazi for removing them. Musk has consistently downplayed the pandemic, especially in the first year and also promoted quack remedies. I know a lot of people think Elon is always a genius (I like spaced and Tesla) but I learned in the last two years he is also a dumbass.

logicalmonster 4y ago
> I think you are out of touch with Elons views. Actually, I think you are. Elon Musk is literally pro-vaccine and agrees with what your position apparently is on that topic, he's just anti-mandate, there's a difference. > He supported a protest of antivax truckers in my hometown that shut the downtown core for weeks I think calling them anti-mandate protestors is more accurate, but good for Elon. People should always have the right to peacefully protest. Do we just support democracy and freedom when it's convenient? > and called our left leaning prime minister a nazi for removing them. I personally wouldn't call Trudeau a Nazi and think words like that are wrongly used in many cases, but he does appear to have some authoritarian tendencies, to put it politely. By the way, around the same time he was opposing the trucker protests, Trudeau was supporting farmer protests shutting down India saying that they always stand up for peaceful protests. > Musk has consistently downplayed the pandemic, especially in the first year The pandemic is a complicated discussion that I think we wouldn't agree on, but I'd say that downplaying the fear of the pandemic was always the best move. As we start to see some of the economic, health, educational, and other consequences of those years, I think more people will realize that we ruined a generation of humanity for very minimal benefit. > also promoted quack remedies. Citation? I think he endorsed the right of people to try and experiment with Ivermectin when there was little concrete information on it and no/few other treatments. But given the low-cost and low-risk of properly administered Ivermectin, that was always arguably the smartest risk-management decision to try.
- bhouston 4y ago
  Whoa, you are a piece of work. You are defending calling Trudeau a Nazi, trying to pretend that anti-vax is significantly different than anti-vac mandate, claiming the Ottawa shutdown was an example of a normal peaceful protest, and that promoting Ivermectin is just people's rights. I don't know what to say, but you are clearly on "copium" in this response. I think you should work as a Russian military PR spokesman's, you'll do great telling me the Russian special operation in Ukraine is going completely as planned.
  - logicalmonster 4y ago
    You have somehow misinterpreted pretty much everything I have said: and not in a small way. Please reflect on how you read well-intentioned peoples' sincere comments and interact with people. It's ok if we disagree on values and ideas, but at least let's be on the same page about what we're disagreeing about. > You are defending calling Trudeau a Nazi My comment to you specifically stated that I'm against using that kind of language. I'd call Trudeau a hypocritical authoritarian and have many other potential labels for him, but would never compare him to a Nazi. > trying to pretend that anti-vax is significantly different than anti-vac mandate Favoring a medical treatment and favoring forcing people to take it against their will are two completely separate concepts. > claiming the Ottawa shutdown was an example of a normal peaceful protest I can't recall if there were any fights or property damage at those trucker protests, but as far as large-scale protests go, the violence and property damage seemed greatly limited compared to other protests that I've seen. I'm not Canadian and wasn't there, so please educate me if my perception is mistaken. Thanks. > and that promoting Ivermectin is just people's rights. I'm not 100% sure what Musk said about Ivermectin or other treatments that you object to, but given how you misread much of my commentary, I'd bet money on you misinterpreting what he stated. I asked you for a citation up above, if you wish to provide an example. > I think you should work as a Russian military PR spokesman's, you'll do great telling me the Russian special operation in Ukraine is going completely as planned. Russia has nothing to do with any of these comments and other than partisan thinking, I'm not sure why throwing that around as an attempted insult makes sense.
    - 4y ago