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To give you some background on why your original post might've been considered inflammatory - the author of the blog you shared has openly said "V is something

To give you some background on why your original post might've been considered inflammatory - the author of the blog you shared has openly said "V is something that should be ignored until it dies into obscurity": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27442724 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27442724 I wouldn't call the author an objective reviewer of the language. Also even in this thread there were people spreading lies about the language: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544205 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544205 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544576 who have a history of spreading lies about V that goes back years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20765490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20765490 My advice is - check out the language and make up your own mind. In the end this is a tool, not a football club.

suprfnk 4y ago
Hey, thanks for the civil response! > the author of the blog you shared has openly said "V is something that should be ignored until it dies into obscurity": I didn't know this -- that's very harsh, and I don't agree at all. I see that that comment was made after the reviewing blog posts, however. I can get that the relation between V and them has soured. > Also even in this thread there were people spreading lies about the language: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544205 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544205 That's the one I initially replied to, sharing my view as an outside observer. It would probably serve V well to handle such popular blog posts in some way. Like put up a blog post refuting the points in the article, and then link to that or something. Something to undo the damage to the language's image by those posts, and (re-)inspire confidence. The other way is probably to be "so good they can't ignore you". That would be great, always good to have more great tools. > My advice is - check out the language and make up your own mind. In the end this is a tool, not a football club. I completely agree -- and people should try it for themselves. I guess my point is mostly that if the community's exposure to a language is those blog posts, they won't be inclined to try it. And if those blog posts don't get handled in a graceful and confidence inspiring way, the community won't "update" its view of the language.
- 10241024 4y ago
  By the way usually when a hit piece about V starts circulating on HN, the author of V takes the time to refute the claims in the comments section: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31793554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31793554 (Ctrl+F amedvednikov) But I agree 100% - having a blog post that refutes all the claims in one place would be very useful.
  - suprfnk 4y ago
    Ah, that's good to know! Will check it out.
- Tozen 4y ago
  - suprfnk 4y ago
    Hey Tozen, are you alright? It might be good for you to take a step back and relax a bit. I have been nothing but civil and open-minded, I have not smeared vlang in any way, I have merely been asking questions as an outside observer. You, on the other hand, have been aggressively defensive, and have been projecting an almost paranoid "everything and everyone is against vlang" attitude. I almost start thinking that you are the one trolling me. If not, I sincerely hope you will take a step back and assess the situation and yourself -- and try to relax a bit. No single programming language is worth getting this wound up about.
    - Tozen 4y ago
    - dang 4y ago
      Please do not post flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

suprfnk 4y ago

Hey, thanks for the civil response! > the author of the blog you shared has openly said "V is something that should be ignored until it dies into obscurity": I didn't know this -- that's very harsh, and I don't agree at all. I see that that comment was made after the reviewing blog posts, however. I can get that the relation between V and them has soured. > Also even in this thread there were people spreading lies about the language: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544205 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33544205 That's the one I initially replied to, sharing my view as an outside observer. It would probably serve V well to handle such popular blog posts in some way. Like put up a blog post refuting the points in the article, and then link to that or something. Something to undo the damage to the language's image by those posts, and (re-)inspire confidence. The other way is probably to be "so good they can't ignore you". That would be great, always good to have more great tools. > My advice is - check out the language and make up your own mind. In the end this is a tool, not a football club. I completely agree -- and people should try it for themselves. I guess my point is mostly that if the community's exposure to a language is those blog posts, they won't be inclined to try it. And if those blog posts don't get handled in a graceful and confidence inspiring way, the community won't "update" its view of the language.

10241024 4y ago
By the way usually when a hit piece about V starts circulating on HN, the author of V takes the time to refute the claims in the comments section: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31793554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31793554 (Ctrl+F amedvednikov) But I agree 100% - having a blog post that refutes all the claims in one place would be very useful.
- suprfnk 4y ago
  Ah, that's good to know! Will check it out.
Tozen 4y ago
- suprfnk 4y ago
  Hey Tozen, are you alright? It might be good for you to take a step back and relax a bit. I have been nothing but civil and open-minded, I have not smeared vlang in any way, I have merely been asking questions as an outside observer. You, on the other hand, have been aggressively defensive, and have been projecting an almost paranoid "everything and everyone is against vlang" attitude. I almost start thinking that you are the one trolling me. If not, I sincerely hope you will take a step back and assess the situation and yourself -- and try to relax a bit. No single programming language is worth getting this wound up about.
  - Tozen 4y ago
  - dang 4y ago
    Please do not post flamewar comments to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.