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> Some instances check every follow/follow request and block if anything looks off, including "lurker only". That's rare, though, right? Since there's often a

by jefftk 4y ago

> Some instances check every follow/follow request and block if anything looks off, including "lurker only". That's rare, though, right? Since there's often a ton of following going around, especially now? It's probably also not that hard to make something that easily passes those sorts of quick checks? > Some instances are fine with search indexing their public timelines. Which then means anything of yours that gets boosted by someone on a server like that will be indexed.

WorldMaker 4y ago
> That's rare, though, right? Not in my experience. I'm on a tiny instance and follows are so rare in general, I can watch them all individually. There are many users that require follow requests where they verify/vet every single follow. > It's probably also not that hard to make something that easily passes those sorts of quick checks? Maybe such that one person doesn't notice, but remember the scale here: if someone is trying to "follow the world" maliciously, they have to make sure that they pass the quick checks of every paranoid person they try to follow. Once a malicious site is "discovered" the #fediblock hash tag moves pretty virally to encourage other paranoid users/instances to (re-)evaluate the bad actor. > Which then means anything of yours that gets boosted by someone on a server like that will be indexed (Courteous) Instances don't allow you to boost a Followers Only post to the Public timeline. Discourteous instances may exist, but when they are found out, they are generally blocked (again, the #fediblock hashtag sometimes moves swiftly and virally here).
- fediblock 4y ago
  Fediblock just re-centralizes blacklisting to the (opaque) maintainers of that list, which defeats much of the point of federation
  - WorldMaker 4y ago
    There's no "Fediblock central list". At the moment it's just a search hashtag that federates with other toots (it federates as toots because it is just toots). It is entirely up to instance admins what they do with what they see in that hashtag.

by jefftk 4y ago

WorldMaker 4y ago

> That's rare, though, right? Not in my experience. I'm on a tiny instance and follows are so rare in general, I can watch them all individually. There are many users that require follow requests where they verify/vet every single follow. > It's probably also not that hard to make something that easily passes those sorts of quick checks? Maybe such that one person doesn't notice, but remember the scale here: if someone is trying to "follow the world" maliciously, they have to make sure that they pass the quick checks of every paranoid person they try to follow. Once a malicious site is "discovered" the #fediblock hash tag moves pretty virally to encourage other paranoid users/instances to (re-)evaluate the bad actor. > Which then means anything of yours that gets boosted by someone on a server like that will be indexed (Courteous) Instances don't allow you to boost a Followers Only post to the Public timeline. Discourteous instances may exist, but when they are found out, they are generally blocked (again, the #fediblock hashtag sometimes moves swiftly and virally here).

fediblock 4y ago
Fediblock just re-centralizes blacklisting to the (opaque) maintainers of that list, which defeats much of the point of federation
- WorldMaker 4y ago
  There's no "Fediblock central list". At the moment it's just a search hashtag that federates with other toots (it federates as toots because it is just toots). It is entirely up to instance admins what they do with what they see in that hashtag.