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I used to work shipping & receiving, where I got minimum wage, and didn't get a tip for anything. That's why I'm happy to let people working retail & food servi

by soperj 4y ago

I used to work shipping & receiving, where I got minimum wage, and didn't get a tip for anything. That's why I'm happy to let people working retail & food service jobs just do the work for their wage. See how that works?

kdazzle 4y ago
People working in restaurants in the US have a lower minimum wage than the rest of the country. So letting them do their work for like $3/hr doesnt really cut it
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  No, they do not. The employee is still owed the minimum wage, whether it be via tips or their employer if the tips do not add up to minimum wage. Also, quite a few jurisdictions do not have tipped minimum wages anymore. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
  - wdb 4y ago
    I always thought tips was on top of minimum wage but sounds like it is more sponsoring/helping the employer to pay it's employees instead of an extra to the employee.
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      Money is fungible, so it would always be helping the employer pay an employee. When a person decides to become a waiter versus a cook or a janitor, they are including potential income due to tips and lack of tips in their calculations. Thereby, the potential of tips always reduces the need for an employer to pay more.
- Someone1234 4y ago
  That seems like a problem worth addressing.
- gs17 4y ago
  This is a common misunderstanding. Tipped workers still make at least the full federal minimum wage no matter what, just their employer may not be paying more than $2.13 of it if tips are sufficient. It's still not exactly the same (and minimum wage being enough for anyone is a separate issue) but the fallback is the same minimum wage. [0] https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
snowwrestler 4y ago
No, I don't. I don't understand that mindset at all.
- soperj 4y ago
  It wasn't just when I was older that the tips were expected, it was still expected while I was making minimum wage.

by soperj 4y ago

kdazzle 4y ago

People working in restaurants in the US have a lower minimum wage than the rest of the country. So letting them do their work for like $3/hr doesnt really cut it

lotsofpulp 4y ago
No, they do not. The employee is still owed the minimum wage, whether it be via tips or their employer if the tips do not add up to minimum wage. Also, quite a few jurisdictions do not have tipped minimum wages anymore. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
- wdb 4y ago
  I always thought tips was on top of minimum wage but sounds like it is more sponsoring/helping the employer to pay it's employees instead of an extra to the employee.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Money is fungible, so it would always be helping the employer pay an employee. When a person decides to become a waiter versus a cook or a janitor, they are including potential income due to tips and lack of tips in their calculations. Thereby, the potential of tips always reduces the need for an employer to pay more.
Someone1234 4y ago
That seems like a problem worth addressing.
gs17 4y ago
This is a common misunderstanding. Tipped workers still make at least the full federal minimum wage no matter what, just their employer may not be paying more than $2.13 of it if tips are sufficient. It's still not exactly the same (and minimum wage being enough for anyone is a separate issue) but the fallback is the same minimum wage. [0] https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips

snowwrestler 4y ago

No, I don't. I don't understand that mindset at all.

soperj 4y ago
It wasn't just when I was older that the tips were expected, it was still expected while I was making minimum wage.