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Those studies you reference conflict with each other. The second isn't peer-reviewed. From the first one, it actually says for men younger than 40, myocarditis

Those studies you reference conflict with each other. The second isn't peer-reviewed. From the first one, it actually says for men younger than 40, myocarditis is actually higher in vaccinated, whereas for women it's similar to infection: "In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test (97 [95% CI, 91–99] versus 16 [95% CI, 12–18]). In women younger than 40 years, the number of excess events per million was similar after a second dose of mRNA-1273 and a positive test (7 [95% CI, 1–9] versus 8 [95% CI, 6–8])." That supports my belief that vaccination should be voluntary for everyone but especially young people.

HarryHirsch 4y ago
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- taolegal 4y ago
  But clearly people are spreading coronavirus while vaccinated?
  - HarryHirsch 4y ago
    At least they stay away from hospital. One wishes that the country had proper sick leave and labour protections so that people can stay at home and cure their infection instead of spreading it at work. We are seeing the fallout in the labour participation rate - it's partly due to people retiring instead of risking catching a potentially disabling disease and partly due to people unable to work because of Covid sequelae. One hopes that the government catches on.
morsch 4y ago
Here's another one, published in Nature Medicine: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 I haven't read it beyond the abstract. We estimated an extra two (95% confidence interval (CI) 0, 3), one (95% CI 0, 2) and six (95% CI 2, 8) myocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extra ten (95% CI 7, 11) myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273. This compares with an extra 40 (95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the 28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test.

HarryHirsch 4y ago

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taolegal 4y ago
But clearly people are spreading coronavirus while vaccinated?
- HarryHirsch 4y ago
  At least they stay away from hospital. One wishes that the country had proper sick leave and labour protections so that people can stay at home and cure their infection instead of spreading it at work. We are seeing the fallout in the labour participation rate - it's partly due to people retiring instead of risking catching a potentially disabling disease and partly due to people unable to work because of Covid sequelae. One hopes that the government catches on.

morsch 4y ago

Here's another one, published in Nature Medicine: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 I haven't read it beyond the abstract. We estimated an extra two (95% confidence interval (CI) 0, 3), one (95% CI 0, 2) and six (95% CI 2, 8) myocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extra ten (95% CI 7, 11) myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273. This compares with an extra 40 (95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the 28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test.