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I am always skeptical of these "lawtech" companies that sell magic unlocking devices. Are we really to believe that there are unpatched security holes in all ma
by staringback 4y ago
I am always skeptical of these "lawtech" companies that sell magic unlocking devices. Are we really to believe that there are unpatched security holes in all major devices (both Android and iOS) that allow this kind of backdoor access?
I find it rather convenient that the "detailed support matrix" is only available for current customers only, seems to me like the actual amount of supported devices/operating systems would be limited to things such as outdated Samsung Galaxy phones and similar.
- vvilliamperez 4y agoIt works. It's basically a software brute force that works great for 4 digit pins, takes longer for longer passcodes. Other offerings are a keylogger for the pin/passwords after they "return" the device to the suspect.
- Gasp0de 4y agoHow would you install a keylogger on an encrypted device without rooting it or deleting user data?
- staringback 4y ago> It's basically a software brute force that works great for 4 digit pins, takes longer for longer passcodes Since the pin/password isn't actually the encryption key and is instead just the code that is provided to the security module/TPM on the device, I fail to see how this can be bruteforced. Unless there is also a magic hardware backdoor in Android phones, but in that case why would there need to be private companies and how would they even have access to this.
- Gasp0de 4y agoConfiscated phones often have been confiscated for months and are therefore on a relatively old patch level. If at any point old vulnerabilities come out these can be used. Keeping the phones on and connected to a charger in the evidence lockers doesn't seem like too much work.
- jaywalk 4y ago> Keeping the phones on and connected to a charger in the evidence lockers doesn't seem like too much work. There's no way that's a standard procedure.
- Gasp0de 4y agoWhy? Seems pretty intuitive to me in a time where everything is encrypted.
- saratogacx 4y agoIf the phone is setup for automatic updates it'll restart within a month (most of the phones I've had do monthly security patches) and you'll be in a fresh boot state. You can't turn off the updates without first unlocking the phone giving you a rather limited window to attempt to exploit the device.
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- some_random 4y agoIt's complicated, but yes there are a lot of ways to unlock devices some of which include straight up exploiting the device. Keep in mind btw that a lot of the sorts of criminals local LE is going after with these devices are not usually running fully patched iphones or pixels.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y ago>Are we really to believe that there are unpatched security holes in all major devices (both Android and iOS) that allow this kind of backdoor access? If you are at all familiar with the histories of jailbreaking, previous exploits, and the gray unlock market, it’s unreasonable you would not consider this this to be the default case.