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I'm hearing that because I'm 6'6" I should either be able to pay for premium or just never fly. That's a good excuse to get out an in-laws wedding next summer -

I'm hearing that because I'm 6'6" I should either be able to pay for premium or just never fly. That's a good excuse to get out an in-laws wedding next summer - I'll run it by my wife.

shkkmo 4y ago
So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.
- MisterAndersen 4y ago
  Do you have any examples of things biased in favor of tall people?
  - shkkmo 4y ago
    They aren't hard to find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination
    - MisterAndersen 4y ago
      > Height discrimination (also known as heightism) is prejudice or discrimination against individuals based on height. In principle, it refers to the discriminatory treatment against individuals whose height is not within the normal acceptable range of height in a population. > So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else. Case in point? Tall people are outside the normal, acceptable range of height. They certainly get micro- (and in this case, macro) aggressed for it. In my experience, the micro-aggressions seem more blatant because being tall is perceived as being an obviously good thing. People want to be comfortable in their bodies.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      This is about human perception, not about things being designed with a bias in favour of tall people.
      - shkkmo 4y ago
        I said nothing about things being “designed with a bias in favor of tall people.' Tall people earn significantly more on average. Asking short people to underwrite tall people's airfare does not seem fair given that fact.
  - SkyPuncher 4y ago
    I can reach into the cupboard above the refrigerator without a step stool. Oh, yea, I can see over most people in a crowd. I jest, but I'm just a bit taller than average. Occasionally, my wife will point out something that's far easier for me because it's in my reach and not in her reach. Except in cramped circumstances, being taller gives you more flexibility.
  - haneefmubarak 4y ago
    _Life at the top_ by Nobel Laureate Angus Deaton: "According to the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index daily poll of the US population, taller people live better lives, at least on average. They evaluate their lives more favorably, and they are more likely to report a range of positive emotions such as enjoyment and happiness. They are also less likely to report a range of negative experiences, like sadness, and physical pain, though they are more likely to experience stress and anger, and if they are women, to worry. These findings cannot be attributed to different demographic or ethnic characteristics of taller people, but are almost entirely explained by the positive association between height and both income and education, both of which are positively linked to better lives." Link (PDF): https://www.princeton.edu/~deaton/downloads/Deaton_Life_at_the_Top.pdf https://www.princeton.edu/~deaton/downloads/Deaton_Life_at_t...
- sofixa 4y ago
  As a tall person (not even that tall, 190cm) I'm going to have to vehemently disagree. Car, airplane, train bus, metro, etc. seats and space available are designed for shorter people. Doors are sometimes too short (I've taken multiple violent hits to the head due to this abroad). Clothes are harder to find. Do you have any other counter examples? Maybe i only see when I'm inconveniences and miss when things are made for me.
- Kharvok 4y ago
  I'm 6'10. What is built in my favor?
  - readthenotes1 4y ago
    Basketball goal. Volleyball net. Gutters on single story house. Definitely not chairs, door frames, showers, or beds.
    - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
      Drawback to that first one - Everyone asking if you play basketball. Especially obnoxious during junior high - No, I just put on like two feet of growth, I'm lucky if I can even figure out where my feet are, to say nothing of running with them.
  - metadat 4y ago
    Becoming a CEO or other high status job.
    - MisterAndersen 4y ago
      name a CEO who is 6'10
      - ashwagary 4y ago
        Shaq
jibe 4y ago
I’m hearing that you should recline your seat if you need more space.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  Now we're in a prisoners dilemma, aren't we?
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - waqf 4y ago
    No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines. To be a PD it would have to be better for everyone if nobody reclined. We're in, perhaps, a tyranny of the majority, but those are everywhere. As I'm sure you've already noticed if you're 6'6".
    - bigbillheck 4y ago
      > No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines Never had to sit in the very last row of an airplane?
      - readthenotes1 4y ago
        We are in the trolley problem, not the prisoners dilemma. And on some planes they even allowed those seats to recline a little, so maybe not in any philosophical debate other than that people often don't consider other people's suffering
      - ryandvm 4y ago
        Ah, so it's really a "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" situation.
i_am_jl 4y ago
I'm of a similar height and you're leaving out the third option. Fly and suffer. Sit like a GSD with hip dysplasia. But in all seriousness, you're not used to it by now? Paying more for clothes that fit properly, a car that fits without hair brushing on the headliner or knees in the steering column, air mattresses, real mattresses, tents, bicycles, shoes, etc.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  It's true - I'm used to having to pay more for the same and for putting up with a certain level of expected discomfort. I just find with flying there's not a good alternative option. I can shop around for a car that fits me in the right price range, I straight up just don't have a choice with flying.
bigbillheck 4y ago
I'm also 6'6" and that's a realization I came to years ago. Pre-pandemic it was 'pay for first class', post-pandemic it's been 'never fly'. (And if I'm lucky I'll never have to get on an airplane ever again)
scarface_74 4y ago
Every now and then I fly in a small plane that takes me from a major hub to my hometown about 200 miles away. Basically if I’m already at the airport coming off another flight, it’s easier just to hop on a plane than Uber an hour away across the metro and then drive back down south. The plane only has 55 seats and no premium seats. I see tall people struggle all of the time.

I'm hearing that because I'm 6'6" I should either be able to pay for premium or just never fly. That's a good excuse to get out an in-laws wedding next summer - I'll run it by my wife.

shkkmo 4y ago

So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.

MisterAndersen 4y ago
Do you have any examples of things biased in favor of tall people?
- shkkmo 4y ago
  They aren't hard to find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination
  - MisterAndersen 4y ago
    > Height discrimination (also known as heightism) is prejudice or discrimination against individuals based on height. In principle, it refers to the discriminatory treatment against individuals whose height is not within the normal acceptable range of height in a population. > So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else. Case in point? Tall people are outside the normal, acceptable range of height. They certainly get micro- (and in this case, macro) aggressed for it. In my experience, the micro-aggressions seem more blatant because being tall is perceived as being an obviously good thing. People want to be comfortable in their bodies.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    This is about human perception, not about things being designed with a bias in favour of tall people.
    - shkkmo 4y ago
      I said nothing about things being “designed with a bias in favor of tall people.' Tall people earn significantly more on average. Asking short people to underwrite tall people's airfare does not seem fair given that fact.
- SkyPuncher 4y ago
  I can reach into the cupboard above the refrigerator without a step stool. Oh, yea, I can see over most people in a crowd. I jest, but I'm just a bit taller than average. Occasionally, my wife will point out something that's far easier for me because it's in my reach and not in her reach. Except in cramped circumstances, being taller gives you more flexibility.
- haneefmubarak 4y ago
  _Life at the top_ by Nobel Laureate Angus Deaton: "According to the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index daily poll of the US population, taller people live better lives, at least on average. They evaluate their lives more favorably, and they are more likely to report a range of positive emotions such as enjoyment and happiness. They are also less likely to report a range of negative experiences, like sadness, and physical pain, though they are more likely to experience stress and anger, and if they are women, to worry. These findings cannot be attributed to different demographic or ethnic characteristics of taller people, but are almost entirely explained by the positive association between height and both income and education, both of which are positively linked to better lives." Link (PDF): https://www.princeton.edu/~deaton/downloads/Deaton_Life_at_the_Top.pdf https://www.princeton.edu/~deaton/downloads/Deaton_Life_at_t...
sofixa 4y ago
As a tall person (not even that tall, 190cm) I'm going to have to vehemently disagree. Car, airplane, train bus, metro, etc. seats and space available are designed for shorter people. Doors are sometimes too short (I've taken multiple violent hits to the head due to this abroad). Clothes are harder to find. Do you have any other counter examples? Maybe i only see when I'm inconveniences and miss when things are made for me.
Kharvok 4y ago
I'm 6'10. What is built in my favor?
- readthenotes1 4y ago
  Basketball goal. Volleyball net. Gutters on single story house. Definitely not chairs, door frames, showers, or beds.
  - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
    Drawback to that first one - Everyone asking if you play basketball. Especially obnoxious during junior high - No, I just put on like two feet of growth, I'm lucky if I can even figure out where my feet are, to say nothing of running with them.
- metadat 4y ago
  Becoming a CEO or other high status job.
  - MisterAndersen 4y ago
    name a CEO who is 6'10
    - ashwagary 4y ago
      Shaq

jibe 4y ago

I’m hearing that you should recline your seat if you need more space.

SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
Now we're in a prisoners dilemma, aren't we?
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- waqf 4y ago
  No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines. To be a PD it would have to be better for everyone if nobody reclined. We're in, perhaps, a tyranny of the majority, but those are everywhere. As I'm sure you've already noticed if you're 6'6".
  - bigbillheck 4y ago
    > No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines Never had to sit in the very last row of an airplane?
    - readthenotes1 4y ago
      We are in the trolley problem, not the prisoners dilemma. And on some planes they even allowed those seats to recline a little, so maybe not in any philosophical debate other than that people often don't consider other people's suffering
    - ryandvm 4y ago
      Ah, so it's really a "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" situation.

i_am_jl 4y ago

I'm of a similar height and you're leaving out the third option. Fly and suffer. Sit like a GSD with hip dysplasia. But in all seriousness, you're not used to it by now? Paying more for clothes that fit properly, a car that fits without hair brushing on the headliner or knees in the steering column, air mattresses, real mattresses, tents, bicycles, shoes, etc.

SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
It's true - I'm used to having to pay more for the same and for putting up with a certain level of expected discomfort. I just find with flying there's not a good alternative option. I can shop around for a car that fits me in the right price range, I straight up just don't have a choice with flying.

bigbillheck 4y ago

I'm also 6'6" and that's a realization I came to years ago. Pre-pandemic it was 'pay for first class', post-pandemic it's been 'never fly'. (And if I'm lucky I'll never have to get on an airplane ever again)

scarface_74 4y ago

Every now and then I fly in a small plane that takes me from a major hub to my hometown about 200 miles away. Basically if I’m already at the airport coming off another flight, it’s easier just to hop on a plane than Uber an hour away across the metro and then drive back down south. The plane only has 55 seats and no premium seats. I see tall people struggle all of the time.