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> The mod’s response seems fairly reasonable Of course it does, it is in mod's interest to have "reasonable cause" in case things like this end up public. How

> The mod’s response seems fairly reasonable Of course it does, it is in mod's interest to have "reasonable cause" in case things like this end up public. However, there is nothing of sorts even mentioned in the /r/cpp rules: 1. Question/Help Questions and help posts are off-topic for this subreddit. Use r/cpp_questions or StackOverflow instead. 2. Off-topic [empty] The author also posted a counter-example of a Val post that was up, even though it is as much "off-topic" as Circle, based on the mod's argument: https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/ypawe2/the_val_object_model_dave_abrahams_sean_parent/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/ypawe2/the_val_object_... Searching further, there seem to be even more not-quite-C++ posts hanging around not getting removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/xgcbt9/cppfront_herb_sutters_personal_experimental_c/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/xgcbt9/cppfront_herb_s... https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/r27dea/i_wrote_a_simple_goc_compiler_for_gameplay/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/r27dea/i_wrote_a_simpl... https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/ug90nz/a_ruststyle_borrow_checker_for_c_with_partial/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/ug90nz/a_ruststyle_bor... Based on those facts, I find it fairly plausible that the mod is doing it in bad faith. But Reddit is especially notorius for its mods' powertripping and lack of accountability, so it's nothing new in my book.

monkpit 4y ago
I guess my real point is, instead of trying to “expose” the subreddit mod, spend that energy somewhere else and let it go.
- bheadmaster 4y ago
  I agree with your real point, personally. But also sympathize with the guy. Getting stopped from posting something that you've spent a good deal of time and effort building surely feels bad.
cmeacham98 4y ago
The Val post is about the object model and how it relates to (and could be used in a future version of) C++, and is written by major contributors in the C++ space like David Abrahams. OP's post, on the other hand, is blatant promotion of their personal programming language, and I'm not sure why they think it would be allowed on /r/cpp
- bheadmaster 4y ago
  > OP's post, on the other hand, is blatant self-promotion of their personal programming language It's not a whole new language, it's a C++ compiler with extensions. Going by that logic, sharing GNU C++ compiler on /r/cpp should also be banned, which is absurd if you ask me. Regardless, lack of explicit rules makes it very easy for abuse. Who decides what is "off-topic" and what is not? Mods. And without clear rules, I find it hard to believe that they, themselves, have a completely objective view on such issues. I'm not implying that the mod necessarily is malicious, I'm just pointing out why there's a reasonable doubt that they just as well might be.
  - cmeacham98 4y ago
    The (author-chosen) domain for their ""compiler with extensions"" is circle-lang.org So we can safely throw out any arguments about it not being a language. Promoting another programming language is about as off-topic as it gets.
    - bheadmaster 4y ago
      A domain name containing a word "lang" doesn't change the language itself, regardless of the author's reasons for choosing it. Also, when you open the site, it clearly states: > Circle is a new C++20 compiler. It's written from scratch and designed for easy extension. Is GNU C++ also a different programming language from C++, just for having extensions? If yes, should it also be banned from discussion on /r/cpp?
      - cmeacham98 4y ago
        The website used to call it a programming language, but I assume you think that when the website stopped calling it a programming language that it turned into just a compiler? Regardless, this discussion is actually irrelevant. I later found out (and linked to here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33548314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33548314) that Circle isn't even regularly ""censored"" on /r/cpp. Although, for the record, I would be ok if the mods removed all Circle-related posts on /r/cpp for the reasons I stated above, but no point in discussing that as it isn't even what's happening. In reality, this was a single post with a misleading title, but Circle's author is apparently desperately looking for any opportunity to play the victim.

monkpit 4y ago

I guess my real point is, instead of trying to “expose” the subreddit mod, spend that energy somewhere else and let it go.

bheadmaster 4y ago
I agree with your real point, personally. But also sympathize with the guy. Getting stopped from posting something that you've spent a good deal of time and effort building surely feels bad.

cmeacham98 4y ago

The Val post is about the object model and how it relates to (and could be used in a future version of) C++, and is written by major contributors in the C++ space like David Abrahams. OP's post, on the other hand, is blatant promotion of their personal programming language, and I'm not sure why they think it would be allowed on /r/cpp

bheadmaster 4y ago
> OP's post, on the other hand, is blatant self-promotion of their personal programming language It's not a whole new language, it's a C++ compiler with extensions. Going by that logic, sharing GNU C++ compiler on /r/cpp should also be banned, which is absurd if you ask me. Regardless, lack of explicit rules makes it very easy for abuse. Who decides what is "off-topic" and what is not? Mods. And without clear rules, I find it hard to believe that they, themselves, have a completely objective view on such issues. I'm not implying that the mod necessarily is malicious, I'm just pointing out why there's a reasonable doubt that they just as well might be.
- cmeacham98 4y ago
  The (author-chosen) domain for their ""compiler with extensions"" is circle-lang.org So we can safely throw out any arguments about it not being a language. Promoting another programming language is about as off-topic as it gets.
  - bheadmaster 4y ago
    A domain name containing a word "lang" doesn't change the language itself, regardless of the author's reasons for choosing it. Also, when you open the site, it clearly states: > Circle is a new C++20 compiler. It's written from scratch and designed for easy extension. Is GNU C++ also a different programming language from C++, just for having extensions? If yes, should it also be banned from discussion on /r/cpp?
    - cmeacham98 4y ago
      The website used to call it a programming language, but I assume you think that when the website stopped calling it a programming language that it turned into just a compiler? Regardless, this discussion is actually irrelevant. I later found out (and linked to here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33548314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33548314) that Circle isn't even regularly ""censored"" on /r/cpp. Although, for the record, I would be ok if the mods removed all Circle-related posts on /r/cpp for the reasons I stated above, but no point in discussing that as it isn't even what's happening. In reality, this was a single post with a misleading title, but Circle's author is apparently desperately looking for any opportunity to play the victim.