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I’m in camp if they give you the option you have to assume the person in front will fully recline. No point in getting mad over it. If you want or need more spa

I’m in camp if they give you the option you have to assume the person in front will fully recline. No point in getting mad over it. If you want or need more space just get the premium seats if it means that much to you.

raverbashing 4y ago
They can recline it as long as it is far from my knees. But if they need to take their space, the seat won't budge If they need more space they can pay for a seat that reclines more then
- dboreham 4y ago
  Fun story: in the 1980s I flew with a co-worker on Northwest DC-10. Co-worker was a tall solid guy. Person in front tried to recline their seat into his knees. Knees prevented full recline. Person complained to FA. FA yells at my co-worker telling him he has to move his knees to facilitate full recline for person in front.
  - nateburke 4y ago
    I'm 6-5, really long femurs. This happened to me one time as well. I told the flight attendant to move my already spread and jammed knees for me. She quickly realized that there was no orientation of my femurs that would make everyone happy.
SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
I'm hearing that because I'm 6'6" I should either be able to pay for premium or just never fly. That's a good excuse to get out an in-laws wedding next summer - I'll run it by my wife.
- shkkmo 4y ago
  So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.
  - MisterAndersen 4y ago
    Do you have any examples of things biased in favor of tall people?
    - shkkmo 4y ago
      They aren't hard to find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination
      - MisterAndersen 4y ago
        > Height discrimination (also known as heightism) is prejudice or discrimination against individuals based on height. In principle, it refers to the discriminatory treatment against individuals whose height is not within the normal acceptable range of height in a population. > So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else. Case in point? Tall people are outside the normal, acceptable range of height. They certainly get micro- (and in this case, macro) aggressed for it. In my experience, the micro-aggressions seem more blatant because being tall is perceived as being an obviously good thing. People want to be comfortable in their bodies.
      - sofixa 4y ago
        This is about human perception, not about things being designed with a bias in favour of tall people.
        shkkmo 4y ago
        I said nothing about things being “designed with a bias in favor of tall people.' Tall people earn significantly more on average. Asking short people to underwrite tall people's airfare does not seem fair given that fact.
    - SkyPuncher 4y ago
      I can reach into the cupboard above the refrigerator without a step stool. Oh, yea, I can see over most people in a crowd. I jest, but I'm just a bit taller than average. Occasionally, my wife will point out something that's far easier for me because it's in my reach and not in her reach. Except in cramped circumstances, being taller gives you more flexibility.
- jibe 4y ago
  I’m hearing that you should recline your seat if you need more space.
  - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
    Now we're in a prisoners dilemma, aren't we?
    - deleted 4y ago
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    - waqf 4y ago
      No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines. To be a PD it would have to be better for everyone if nobody reclined. We're in, perhaps, a tyranny of the majority, but those are everywhere. As I'm sure you've already noticed if you're 6'6".
      - bigbillheck 4y ago
        > No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines Never had to sit in the very last row of an airplane?
        readthenotes1 4y ago
        We are in the trolley problem, not the prisoners dilemma. And on some planes they even allowed those seats to recline a little, so maybe not in any philosophical debate other than that people often don't consider other people's suffering
        ryandvm 4y ago
        Ah, so it's really a "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" situation.
- i_am_jl 4y ago
  I'm of a similar height and you're leaving out the third option. Fly and suffer. Sit like a GSD with hip dysplasia. But in all seriousness, you're not used to it by now? Paying more for clothes that fit properly, a car that fits without hair brushing on the headliner or knees in the steering column, air mattresses, real mattresses, tents, bicycles, shoes, etc.
  - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
    It's true - I'm used to having to pay more for the same and for putting up with a certain level of expected discomfort. I just find with flying there's not a good alternative option. I can shop around for a car that fits me in the right price range, I straight up just don't have a choice with flying.
- bigbillheck 4y ago
  I'm also 6'6" and that's a realization I came to years ago. Pre-pandemic it was 'pay for first class', post-pandemic it's been 'never fly'. (And if I'm lucky I'll never have to get on an airplane ever again)
- scarface_74 4y ago
  Every now and then I fly in a small plane that takes me from a major hub to my hometown about 200 miles away. Basically if I’m already at the airport coming off another flight, it’s easier just to hop on a plane than Uber an hour away across the metro and then drive back down south. The plane only has 55 seats and no premium seats. I see tall people struggle all of the time.

raverbashing 4y ago

They can recline it as long as it is far from my knees. But if they need to take their space, the seat won't budge If they need more space they can pay for a seat that reclines more then

dboreham 4y ago
Fun story: in the 1980s I flew with a co-worker on Northwest DC-10. Co-worker was a tall solid guy. Person in front tried to recline their seat into his knees. Knees prevented full recline. Person complained to FA. FA yells at my co-worker telling him he has to move his knees to facilitate full recline for person in front.
- nateburke 4y ago
  I'm 6-5, really long femurs. This happened to me one time as well. I told the flight attendant to move my already spread and jammed knees for me. She quickly realized that there was no orientation of my femurs that would make everyone happy.

SketchySeaBeast 4y ago

I'm hearing that because I'm 6'6" I should either be able to pay for premium or just never fly. That's a good excuse to get out an in-laws wedding next summer - I'll run it by my wife.

shkkmo 4y ago
So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.
- MisterAndersen 4y ago
  Do you have any examples of things biased in favor of tall people?
  - shkkmo 4y ago
    They aren't hard to find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination
    - MisterAndersen 4y ago
      > Height discrimination (also known as heightism) is prejudice or discrimination against individuals based on height. In principle, it refers to the discriminatory treatment against individuals whose height is not within the normal acceptable range of height in a population. > So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else. Case in point? Tall people are outside the normal, acceptable range of height. They certainly get micro- (and in this case, macro) aggressed for it. In my experience, the micro-aggressions seem more blatant because being tall is perceived as being an obviously good thing. People want to be comfortable in their bodies.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      This is about human perception, not about things being designed with a bias in favour of tall people.
      - shkkmo 4y ago
        I said nothing about things being “designed with a bias in favor of tall people.' Tall people earn significantly more on average. Asking short people to underwrite tall people's airfare does not seem fair given that fact.
  - SkyPuncher 4y ago
    I can reach into the cupboard above the refrigerator without a step stool. Oh, yea, I can see over most people in a crowd. I jest, but I'm just a bit taller than average. Occasionally, my wife will point out something that's far easier for me because it's in my reach and not in her reach. Except in cramped circumstances, being taller gives you more flexibility.
jibe 4y ago
I’m hearing that you should recline your seat if you need more space.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  Now we're in a prisoners dilemma, aren't we?
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - waqf 4y ago
    No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines. To be a PD it would have to be better for everyone if nobody reclined. We're in, perhaps, a tyranny of the majority, but those are everywhere. As I'm sure you've already noticed if you're 6'6".
    - bigbillheck 4y ago
      > No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines Never had to sit in the very last row of an airplane?
      - readthenotes1 4y ago
        We are in the trolley problem, not the prisoners dilemma. And on some planes they even allowed those seats to recline a little, so maybe not in any philosophical debate other than that people often don't consider other people's suffering
      - ryandvm 4y ago
        Ah, so it's really a "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" situation.
i_am_jl 4y ago
I'm of a similar height and you're leaving out the third option. Fly and suffer. Sit like a GSD with hip dysplasia. But in all seriousness, you're not used to it by now? Paying more for clothes that fit properly, a car that fits without hair brushing on the headliner or knees in the steering column, air mattresses, real mattresses, tents, bicycles, shoes, etc.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  It's true - I'm used to having to pay more for the same and for putting up with a certain level of expected discomfort. I just find with flying there's not a good alternative option. I can shop around for a car that fits me in the right price range, I straight up just don't have a choice with flying.
bigbillheck 4y ago
I'm also 6'6" and that's a realization I came to years ago. Pre-pandemic it was 'pay for first class', post-pandemic it's been 'never fly'. (And if I'm lucky I'll never have to get on an airplane ever again)
scarface_74 4y ago
Every now and then I fly in a small plane that takes me from a major hub to my hometown about 200 miles away. Basically if I’m already at the airport coming off another flight, it’s easier just to hop on a plane than Uber an hour away across the metro and then drive back down south. The plane only has 55 seats and no premium seats. I see tall people struggle all of the time.